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		<title>An Introduction To IMAP IDLE: Why Yahoo!&#8217;s iPhone Push System Isn&#8217;t Working So Well</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just finished a short write-up on IMAP IDLE &#8212; a system that&#8217;s often called an email &#8220;push&#8221; technology. Here are a couple of excerpts: IDLE is not &#8212; according to my definition above &#8212; a true push technology. IDLE actually requires an active connection in order to work, and that connection cannot be initiated [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished a short write-up on <a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2177.txt">IMAP IDLE</a> &#8212; a system that&#8217;s often called an email &#8220;push&#8221; technology. Here are a couple of excerpts:</p>

<blockquote>IDLE is not &#8212; according to my definition above &#8212; a true push technology. IDLE actually requires an active connection in order to work, and that connection cannot be initiated by the server.</blockquote>

<p>[Update]: Yahoo! uses P-IMAP, not IDLE to implement &#8220;push&#8221;&#8230;[ Link: <a href="http://dmiessler.com/study/imap_idle/">An Introduction to IMAP IDLE</a> ]</p>
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		<title>Why Does Yahoo&#8217;s Search Interface Look Exactly Like Google&#8217;s?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230;and more importantly, why are they not being criticized for it? I mean they&#8217;re not exactly being subtle about it. Text ads at the top and right. The upper right area has a link to the definition of the search term. Stats from Yahoo: 1 &#8211; 10 of about 337,000,000 for linux &#8211; 0.13 sec [...]]]></description>
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<p>&#8230;and more importantly, why are they not being criticized for it? I mean they&#8217;re not exactly being subtle about it.</p>

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    <li>Text ads at the top and right.</li>
    <li>The upper right area has a link to the definition of the search term.</li>
    <li>Stats from Yahoo: <small>1 &#8211; 10 of about 337,000,000 for <strong><a href="http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geuuMD4c5EYWQBG9VXNyoA/SIG=12ki8jspe/EXP=1154495107/**http%3a//education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/search%3fp=linux">linux</a></strong> &#8211; 0.13 sec</small></li>
    <li>Stats from Google: <small>Results 1 &#8211; 20 of about 999,000,000 English pages for linux [<a title="Look up definition of linux" href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&#038;oi=dict&#038;ei=ueLORPacHofIwALd59S_BA&#038;sig2=jMyuptZa9g47osQwQRfD_g&#038;q=http://www.answers.com/linux%26r%3D67">definition</a>].  (0.21 seconds)</small></li>
    <li>The search results look highly similar &#8212; cached being the first option, for example.</li>
    <li>Search bar at top and bottom (intuitive, but horked nonetheless).</li>
    <li>The overall look, i.e. a minimalist feel.</li>
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<p>I mean, that list took literally 4 minutes to put together; I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s much more. The question is: why doesn&#8217;t Google care? Why don&#8217;t Yahoo&#8217;s proponents care? It&#8217;s flagrant, really. It&#8217;s essentially saying to the world, in big block letters,</p>

<blockquote>&#8220;I suck &#8211; a lot. My only option in this search competition is to copy the superior company.&#8221;</blockquote>

<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I don&#8217;t know how <em>I&#8217;d</em> compete with Google either, but <em>damn</em>. This is just obscene.</p>
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