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		<title>Overcoming Bias: Affective Death Spirals</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/overcoming-bias-affective-death-spirals</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another superb post from Overcoming Bias. [ Affective Death Spirals &#124; overcomingbias.com ] Related ContentOvercoming Bias: Terminal Values and Instrumental ValuesOvercoming Bias: Show-Off BiasOvercoming Bias: Near and Far ThinkingOvercoming Bias: Semantic StopsignsOvercoming Bias: Lost Purposes]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/12/affective-death.html" title="Overcoming Bias: Affective Death Spirals">superb post</a> from <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/" title="Overcoming Bias">Overcoming Bias</a>.</p>

<p>[ <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/12/affective-death.html" title="Overcoming Bias: Affective Death Spirals">Affective Death Spirals | overcomingbias.com</a> ]</p>
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		<title>Concept of the Day: Dysrationalia</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dysrationalia is defined as the inability to think and behave rationally despite adequate intelligence. &#8212; Wikipedia Links [ Dysrationalia &#124; wikipedia.org ] Related ContentThe TriviumFrom the &#8220;Strange Units of Measurement&#8221; DepartmentKitty PidginFlowWiki-Wiki-Wiki-Wiki]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Dysrationalia is defined as the inability to think and behave rationally despite adequate intelligence. &#8212; Wikipedia</blockquote>

<h3>Links</h3>

<p>[ <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysrationalia" title="Dysrationalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia">Dysrationalia | wikipedia.org</a> ]</p>
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		<title>Global Warming Revisited</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 16:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Global Warming]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, I&#8217;m tired of being clueless about global warming. Tired. I&#8217;ve been roughly 90% convinced of man-made global warming for years now, but I occasionally see information that convinces me there&#8217;s less to it than many would have us believe. At one point last year I saw some data that made me say something like, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I&#8217;m tired of being clueless about global warming. Tired.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve been roughly 90% convinced of man-made global warming for years now, but I occasionally see information that convinces me there&#8217;s less to it than many would have us believe.</p>

<p>At one point last year I saw some data that made me say something like, &#8220;This data makes me question my belief in global warming.&#8221;</p>

<p>One reader showed up and scolded my ass. He was like, &#8220;If that was all that it took to convince you that global warming was false, then we can&#8217;t possibly respect your view in support of it either.&#8221; </p>

<p>That&#8217;s paraphrased, but the point is completely valid.</p>

<p>I don&#8217;t want to to rely on experts; I want to become one&#8230;even if just to a minor degree. I want to get to where I interpret the data itself and not rely on someone else&#8217;s interpretation.</p>

<p>I need to be able to build my OWN argument for man-made global warming rather than do the famous &#8220;appeal to authority&#8221; maneuver. Another goal of mine is to be able to do this with evolution as well.</p>

<p>These are two goals of mine: be able to explain, in my own words, why I believe (with evidence) that man-made global warming and evolution are real.</p>

<p>Do you agree? Have you done the same already? Do you have your own arguments for these topics or do you also appeal to an authority? Why or why not?</p>
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		<title>Grammar, Logic and Rhetoric</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Education]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[History]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[This should keep you busy for a few minutes. Grammar, Logic, and Rhetoric make up the trivium.: Related ContentThe Trivium, SimplifiedThe TriviumTextMate Blogging GoalsLearning MachinesUsing TextMate for Blogging on WordPress]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should keep you busy for a few minutes.</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar" title="Wikipedia Entry: Grammar">Grammar</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic" title="Wikipedia Entry: Logic">Logic</a>, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetoric" title="Wikipedia Entry: Rhetoric">Rhetoric</a> make up the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivium_%28education%29" title="Wikipedia Entry: Trivium">trivium</a>.:</p>
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		<title>How to Approach Problem Solving</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-to-approach-problem-solving</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never let school interfere with your education. &#8212; Mark Twain [ Update: The following story is not true. I knew when I posted it that it was the kind of story that gets disproved by Snopes constantly, but I went ahead for a very simple reason: the details of the story as well as the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Never let school interfere with your education. &#8212; Mark Twain</blockquote>

<p><span class="smaller">[ Update: The following story is not true. I knew when I posted it that it was the kind of story that gets disproved by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes" title="Wikipedia Entry: Snopes">Snopes</a> constantly, but I went ahead for a very simple reason: the details of the story as well as the punch-line of who the story is about doesn't really matter. It's the lesson that's important. Still, I should have checked it first and posted it in another context. ]</span></p>

<p>Some time ago I received a call from a colleague. He was about to give a student a zero for his answer to a physics question, while the student claimed a perfect score. The instructor and the student agreed to an impartial arbiter, and I was selected. I read the examination question: &#8220;SHOW HOW IT IS POSSIBLE TO DETERMINE THE HEIGHT OF A TALL BUILDING WITH THE AID OF A BAROMETER.&#8221; The student had answered, &#8220;Take the barometer to the top of the building, attach a long rope to it, lower it to the street, and then bring it up, measuring the length of the rope. The length of the rope is the height of the building.&#8221;</p>

<p>The student really had a strong case for full credit since he had really answered the question completely and correctly! On the other hand, if full credit were given, it could well contribute to a high grade in his physics course and to certify competence in physics, but the answer did not confirm this. I suggested that the student have another try. I gave the student six minutes to answer the question with the warning that the answer should show some knowledge of physics. At the end of five minutes, he had not written anything. I asked if he wished to give up, but he said he had many answers to this problem; he was just thinking of the best one. I excused myself for interrupting him and asked him to please go on. In the next minute, he dashed off his answer which read: &#8220;Take the barometer to the top of the building and lean over the edge of the roof. Drop the barometer, timing its fall with a stopwatch. Then, using the formula x=0.5<em>a</em>t^^2, calculate the height of the building.&#8221; At this point, I asked my colleague if he would give up. He conceded,and gave the student almost full credit.</p>

<p>While leaving my colleague&#8217;s office, I recalled that the student had said that he had other answers to the problem,so I asked him what they were. &#8220;Well,&#8221; said the student, &#8220;there are many ways of getting the height of a tall building with the aid of a barometer. For example, you could take the barometer out on a sunny day and measure the height of the barometer, the length of its shadow, and the length of the shadow of the building,and by the use of simple proportion, determine the height of the building.&#8221; &#8220;Fine,&#8221; I said, &#8220;and others?&#8221; &#8220;Yes,&#8221; said the student, &#8220;there is a very basic measurement method you will like. In this method, you take the barometer and begin to walk up the stairs. As you climb the stairs, you mark off the length of the barometer along the wall. You then count the number of marks, and this will give you the height of the building in barometer units.&#8221; &#8220;A very direct method.&#8221; &#8220;Of course. If you want a more sophisticated method, you can tie the barometer to the end of a string, swing it as a pendulum, and determine the value of g at the street level and at the top of the building. From the difference between the two values of g, the height of the building, in principle, can be calculated.&#8221; &#8220;On this same tact, you could take the barometer to the top of the building, attach a long rope to it, lower it to just above the street, and then swing it as a pendulum. You could then calculate the height of the building by the period of the precession&#8221;.</p>

<p>&#8220;Finally,&#8221; he concluded, &#8220;there are many other ways of solving the problem.  Probably the best,&#8221; he said, &#8220;is to take the barometer to the basement and knock on the superintendent&#8217;s door. When the superintendent answers, you speak to him as follows: &#8216;Mr. Superintendent, here is a fine barometer. If you will tell me the height of the building, I will give you this barometer.&#8221; At this point, I asked the student if he really did not know the conventional answer to this question. He admitted that he did, but said that he was fed up with high school and college instructors trying to teach him how to think. The student was <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Bohr" title="Wikipedia Entry: Niels Bohr">Neils Bohr</a>.</p>
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		<title>Economics as the Solution to Cognitive Dissonance</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Economics]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott Adams just wrote an interesting piece about how he thinks economists have a unique way of seeing the world. First, he loosely defines an economist as someone who seeks explanations for why things happen. I like that, and it fits with my favorite economist&#8217;s view as well (Malcolm Gladwell).He then goes on to explain [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Adams just wrote an <a href="http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2007/09/on-the-other-ha.html">interesting piece</a> about how he thinks economists have a unique way of seeing the world. First, he loosely defines an economist as someone who seeks explanations for why things happen. I like that, and it fits with my favorite economist&#8217;s view as well (Malcolm Gladwell).He then goes on to explain why economists are especially immune to cognitive dissonance:</p>

<blockquote>I studied economics in college. One thing I’ve noticed is that other people who have studied economics tend to think a similar way. Some of the similarity is probably because it takes a certain kind of person to be interested in economics in the first place. But I’m convinced that the study of economics changes brains in a way I can identify after about five minutes of conversation. In particular, I think the study of economics makes you relatively immune to cognitive dissonance.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonanceThe primary skill of an economist is identifying all of the explanations for various phenomena. Cognitive dissonance is, at its core, the inability to recognize and accept other explanations.</blockquote>

<blockquote>I’m oversimplifying, but you get the point. The more your brain is trained for economics, the less it is susceptible to cognitive dissonance, or so it seems.</blockquote>

<p>I like the way Scott thinks.:</p>
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		<title>Shibboleths and Logical Fallacies</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My friend Steven has some interesting things to say about, &#8220;begging the question&#8221;. He then goes on to note that simply knowing how misused the term is serves as a shibboleth. Related ContentSXSW Not What It Used to Be?Music: Rodrigo y GabrielaLaTeXA Mind-Map to Western PhilosophySubmarine, a Review and Recommendation by Steven Harms]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend <a href="http://stevengharms.com/">Steven</a> has some interesting things to say about, <a href="http://stevengharms.com/?p=1017">&#8220;begging the question&#8221;</a>. He then goes on to note that simply knowing how misused the term is serves as a <a href="http://stevengharms.com/?p=1019">shibboleth</a>.</p>
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		<title>Education: The Ironic Protest</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 16:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[These parents are protesting their children not being able to walk at a commencement ceremony because they failed a necessary academic exam. LET ARE KIDS WALK! &#8230;reads one of the signs. The parents are the reason their children are not walking. All the test did was reveal their failure. Related ContentPaying People To Be Good [...]]]></description>
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<p>These parents are protesting their children not being able to walk at a commencement ceremony because they failed a necessary academic exam.</p>

<blockquote>LET <strong>ARE</strong> KIDS WALK!</blockquote>

<p>&#8230;reads one of the signs.</p>

<p>The parents are the reason their children are not walking. All the test did was <em>reveal</em> their failure.</p>
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		<title>Black Teacher In Chicago Teaches Black Students Not To Say &#8220;Axe&#8221; When They Mean &#8220;Ask&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 00:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I respect this guy very much for having the courage to stand against the masses of fools that have no-doubt flamed him for &#8220;selling out&#8221;. Related ContentA Condensed, Illustrated Argument Against Religion by Christopher HitchensFox News Controls the Uneducated Masses: a.k.a How to Manufacture ConsentThe Laughing Baby CollectionChristoper Hitchens Interview: New Respect For Lou DobbsFOX [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect this guy very much for having the courage to stand against the masses of fools that have no-doubt flamed him for &#8220;selling out&#8221;.</p>

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		<title>The Definition Of Atheism, And Why It Is *NOT* A Belief</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the common arguments from Christians is that atheism is a belief analogous to their own belief in God. The implication, of course, is that both are therefore equally reasonable. Unfortunately, the debate can&#8217;t even start without resolving the meaning of atheism itself. I don&#8217;t claim to be able to resolve this very complicated [...]]]></description>
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<p>One of the common arguments from Christians is that atheism is a belief analogous to their own belief in God. The implication, of course, is that both are therefore equally reasonable. Unfortunately, the debate can&#8217;t even start without resolving the meaning of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism">atheism</a> itself.</p>

<p>I don&#8217;t claim to be able to resolve <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_and_strong_atheism">this very complicated issue</a> in a single post, but I believe we as a community should standardize on one meaning. What follows is my idea of what that definition should be, along with my reasons for thinking so.</p>

<dl><dt><strong>Atheism</strong></dt>
<dd>The lack of belief in gods as they are conceptualized in human civilization. This is <strong>not</strong> a proclamation of divine knowledge, i.e. that in all possible existences an atheist is positive that nothing like a God exists, anywhere. That would be stupid. The word is used (or should be) to describe a <em>lack of belief</em> in the Gods that are worshiped throughout our world. It&#8217;s a practical definition based on the reality of being surrounded by those who do believe. If that were not the case then there&#8217;d be no word for atheism just as there&#8217;s no word for those who don&#8217;t believe in the sun revolving around Jupiter.</dd></dl>

<h2>History + Practicality</h2>

<p>Let me try and back that up a little bit. Consider the fact that atheism came <em>after</em> theism. It&#8217;s a <em>response to people believing in something.</em> It didn&#8217;t come about by itself. It&#8217;s not something on its own; it&#8217;s the lack of something. That something is belief.</p>

<p>To view atheism as a belief in itself would require us to create many other such words to describe other &#8220;positive non-beliefs&#8221;. Dragons, for example. If we are to subscribe to the <em>atheism as a belief</em> concept then we&#8217;re going to need to explicitly label those who don&#8217;t believe in dragons.  Oh, and the Easter bunny too.</p>

<p>Who would go around <em>actively</em> disbelieving in the infinite number of things that are preposterous? Here&#8217;s one of my favorite quotes on the matter:</p>

<blockquote>If atheism is a belief then <em>not</em> collecting stamps is a hobby.</blockquote>

<p>I don&#8217;t know who came up with that one, but here&#8217;s mine:</p>

<blockquote>When you knock over an empty glass you don’t spill <em>non-water </em>all over the table. And you don’t then proceed to clean up the  non-water using paper towels designed to remove non-water, non-juice, and non-soda. <strong>You just do nothing because there wasn’t anything in the glass</strong>.</blockquote>

<p>Beliefs are the same. You either have a belief in something or you don’t, and if you don&#8217;t then <em>you simply don&#8217;t</em>. It would be asinine to enumerate the trillions of things you don&#8217;t believe in and then consider those your beliefs. And that&#8217;s really what we&#8217;re being asked to accept with an &#8220;positive&#8221; belief model for atheism&#8230;that each ludicrous thing we come across must be <em>actively</em> disbelieved.</p>

<p>I just don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s the case, but I look forward to hearing from anyone who disagrees. I&#8217;d love to see another perspective on this.:</p>
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		<title>Disproving Stupid Things</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A friend, an intelligent lapsed Jew who observes the Sabbath for reasons of cultural solidarity, describes himself as a Tooth Fairy Agnostic. He will not call himself an atheist because it is in principle impossible to prove a negative. But &#8220;agnostic&#8221; on its own might suggest that he though God&#8217;s existence or non-existence equally likely. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>A friend, an intelligent lapsed Jew who observes the Sabbath for reasons of cultural solidarity, describes himself as a Tooth Fairy Agnostic. He will not call himself an atheist because it is in principle impossible to prove a negative. But &#8220;agnostic&#8221; on its own might suggest that he though God&#8217;s existence or non-existence equally likely.

In fact, though strictly agnostic about god, he considers God&#8217;s existence no more probable than the Tooth Fairy&#8217;s.Bertrand Russell used a hypothetical teapot in orbit about Mars for the same didactic purpose. You have to be agnostic about the teapot, but that doesn&#8217;t mean you treat the likelihood of its existence as being on all fours with its non-existence.


The list of things about which we strictly have to be agnostic doesn&#8217;t stop at tooth fairies and celestial teapots. It is infinite. If you want to believe in a particular one of them &#8212; teapots, unicorns, or tooth fairies, Thor or Yahweh &#8212; the onus is on you to say why you believe in it. The onus is not on the rest of us to say why we do not. We who are atheists are also a-fairyists, a-teapotists, and a-unicornists, but we don&#8217;t&#8217; have to bother saying so.

<small>
&#8211; Richard Dawkins, following a list of excerpts from hate mail sent to the editor of <em>Freethought Today,</em> after she won a separationist court battle, in &#8220;A Challenge To Atheists: Come Out of the Closet&#8221; (<em>Free Inquiry,</em> Summer, 2002) paragraph division added ††</small></blockquote>
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		<title>Religious Hipocracy (Comic)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Source: atheist-community.org Related Content101 Atheist QuotesYou&#8217;re Not Good if You&#8217;re Not ReligiousIf You&#8217;re An Atheist, Don&#8217;t Hide ItAn Atheist Debate ReferenceA Scathing Analysis of Palin&#8217;s Comments on Obama&#8217;s Community Service]]></description>
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<p align="center"><small>Source: <a href="http://www.atheist-community.org/">atheist-community.org</a></small></p>
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		<title>Carl Sagan: The Dragon In My Garage</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A most excellent piece on disproving fantasies. Related ContentAndroid Has a Hardware Envy ProblemCarl Sagan&#8217;s Wife Talks About His Deathbed ConversionPerhaps The Most Important Reason Cannabis Should Be LegalAtheists of Silicon ValleyFlight of the Conchords &#8212; Albi the Racist Dragon]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htm">A most excellent piece</a> on disproving fantasies.</p>
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		<title>Logic In Government?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ron Paul scores again &#8212; this time about Iran. http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul368.html If this guy makes it through the initial battles in 2008, I&#8217;m voting for him all the way. Related ContentRon Paul on Security and LibertyA Ron Paul PrimerPaul Basically Says Obama the Best of the Three CandidatesRon Paul is for Real. Let&#8217;s Do This.Ron Paul [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul scores again &#8212; this time about Iran.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul368.html">http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul368.html</a></p>

<p>If this guy makes it through the initial battles in 2008, I&#8217;m voting for him all the way.</p>
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		<title>Why Cops Stop And Frisk So Many Blacks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A refreshing look at the issue of race and crime. http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-02-07hm.html Now if we could just apply this type of logical thought to more than just New York, and to more than just race and crime. Related ContentWho&#8217;s Killing Who In New YorkNew York City Bans Outdoor Smoking &#124; CNN.comNYC Crime VisualizationsWhy Crime Keeps Falling [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A refreshing look at the issue of race and crime.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-02-07hm.html">http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-02-07hm.html</a></p>

<p>Now if we could just apply this type of logical thought to more than just New York, and to more than just race and crime.</p>
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		<title>New Years Resolutions Are For Losers</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, that was a bit inflammatory, but it&#8217;s true; new years resolutions almost never work. Here&#8217;s why: If you were actually capable of making that certain necessary change in your life, you wouldn&#8217;t have waited until New Years Eve to do it. The reason it hasn&#8217;t happened is because you&#8217;re too weak to pull it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, that was a bit inflammatory, but it&#8217;s true; new years resolutions almost never work. Here&#8217;s why:</p>

<blockquote>If you were actually capable of making that certain necessary change in your life, you wouldn&#8217;t have waited until New Years Eve to do it. The reason it hasn&#8217;t happened is because you&#8217;re too weak to pull it off. So, rather than pretending that this &#8220;resolution&#8221; will make a difference, spend your time eliminating the weakness that&#8217;s causing you to fail.</blockquote>
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		<title>What Do Parenting, Schooling, Democracy, and Marriage Have In Common?</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/what-do-parenting-schooling-democracy-and-marriage-have-in-common</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 04:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230;they&#8217;re all complex systems that worked in the past but are now failing. This is true because they rely on an advanced, educated population to sustain them. We don&#8217;t have one of those anymore. We have teachers sleeping with students, parents abandoning children in order to fornicate, and people watching reality TV instead of getting [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;they&#8217;re all complex systems that worked in the past but are now failing. This is true because they rely on an advanced, educated population to sustain them. We don&#8217;t have one of those anymore.</p>

<p>We have teachers sleeping with students, parents abandoning children in order to fornicate, and people watching reality TV instead of getting an education. Our society is failing, and it will continue to deteriorate because we are becoming mouthbreathers.</p>

<p>Healthy society is based on using logic and reason to create rules that benefit society. It requires that people participating in such a system place their own interests on hold in order to benefit someone else. It&#8217;s intellect vs. animal.</p>

<p>The animal is now winning. The society is crumbling. I have no idea what the outcome will look like, but I do know that it&#8217;s going to be ugly. The process is in motion.</p>
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		<title>The Five Whys</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 07:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A somewhat interesting concept: if you ask &#8220;why&#8221; five times &#8212; and actually reveal an additional core reason each time &#8212; you only need five answers to arrive at the root cause. This is highly disputed for a number of reasons, but evidently Toyota uses a similar technique to assist with its operations. LINK: Wikipedia [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A somewhat interesting concept: if you ask &#8220;why&#8221; five times &#8212; and actually reveal an additional core reason each time &#8212; you only need five answers to arrive at the root cause. This is highly disputed for a number of reasons, but evidently Toyota uses a similar technique to assist with its operations.</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Whys">LINK: Wikipedia Article On The 5 Whys</a></p>
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		<title>The Worst Anti-Spam Technique Ever: &#8220;Bouncing&#8221; Spam Messages</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-worst-anti-spam-technique-ever-bouncing-spam-messages</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 06:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some well-meaning, albeit uninformed soul (who just got Dugg) came up with what he believes to be a great way to combat spam. The idea is to &#8220;bounce&#8221; the spam messages back to the spammer &#8212; presumably so that you don&#8217;t exist. Interesting. So the best technique for fighting spam is to send a message [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some well-meaning, albeit uninformed soul (who just <a href="http://digg.com/apple/How_Apple_s_Mail_can_greatly_reduce_spam_if_not_make_it_go_away_completely#c3902883">got Dugg</a>) came up with what he believes to be a great way to combat spam. The idea is to &#8220;bounce&#8221; the spam messages back to the spammer &#8212; presumably so that you don&#8217;t exist.</p>

<p>Interesting. So the best technique for fighting spam is to send a message to the spammer saying,</p>

<blockquote>Hi, this is a valid email address (they can tell it&#8217;s not a real error). Do me a favor and don&#8217;t spam me. Oh, and one more thing &#8212; don&#8217;t spam me using the address I&#8217;m sending this from.</blockquote>

<p>Outstanding. I&#8217;ve got another great idea: let&#8217;s make a list of dates of birth and social security numbers to put online that&#8217;s part of a &#8220;Identity Theft Prevention List&#8221;. This way the identity thieves can have one place to go to ensure they don&#8217;t steal the identity of someone who doesn&#8217;t want theirs stolen.</p>

<p>Use some logic, people. If they were willing to spam you the first time, do you really think they&#8217;re going to stop because you ask them to? Here&#8217;s another stellar crime fighting technique: go up the the friendly neighborhood rapist and say,</p>

<blockquote>Hey, do me a favor, don&#8217;t ever come to 135 Elm Street where my wife&#8217;s often home alone while I&#8217;m on business. M&#8217;kay? Thanks.</blockquote>

<p>Genius.</p>

<p><small>** It&#8217;s not quite this bad since it&#8217;s made to look like an error rather than a reply, but to a spammer this is a trivial obfuscation. Things like the time the spam was sent vs. the time it was bounced (as well as mail headers) illustrate very clearly whether something was actually bounced or was made to look like it did. Spammers tend to react negatively to the latter. Plus, a good portion of spam comes from spoofed addresses anyway, and responding just clogs bandwidth and freaks out the spoofed users. Don&#8217;t waste your time.</small></p>
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		<title>Hanlon&#8217;s Razor</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. Related ContentThe Basic Laws of Human Stupidity &#124; cantrip.orgNews Entertainment: The Latest Chapter of Greed and StupidityThis Guy&#8217;s Batshit CrazyHow Norway Defeated MRSA, and Why The U.S. Won&#8217;t Be Able ToWhy Consultants Have A Bad Name]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.</blockquote>
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