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		<title>A Letter To Religious Moderates</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 03:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Accepted wisdom says we should respect moderates and look down on fundamentalists. This is supposedly because the moderates know how to pick out the good parts of their Holy books and ignore the bad, whereas the crazy folks can&#8217;t tell the difference. I still agree with this in practice because moderates are less of an [...]]]></description>
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<p>Accepted wisdom says we should respect moderates and look down on fundamentalists. This is supposedly because the moderates know how to pick out the good parts of their Holy books and ignore the bad, whereas the crazy folks can&#8217;t tell the difference.</p>

<p>I still agree with this in practice because moderates are less of an immediate danger to the world, but philosophically I now have a new perspective on the issue. My new view is that fundamentalists should at least be given some respect <em>for actually following their books</em>.</p>

<p>People seem to think it&#8217;s ok to pick and choose what to follow, but the Bible <strong>clearly </strong>disagrees:</p>

<blockquote><strong>Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.</strong> &#8212; <em>Deuteronomy 4:2</em></blockquote>

<p>Let&#8217;s review what the Bible demands as punishments for breaking these rules:</p>

<blockquote><em>Leviticus 24:16</em>: And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death.</blockquote>

<blockquote><em>Exodus 31:15</em>: Whosoever doeth any work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.</blockquote>

<blockquote><em>Exodus 21:17</em>: He that curseth his father or his mother, shall surely be put to death.</blockquote>

<blockquote><em>Leviticus 20:13</em>: If a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death.</blockquote>

<blockquote><em>Leviticus 20:10</em>: And the man that committeth adultery with another man&#8217;s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death.</blockquote>

<p>Let&#8217;s be clear &#8212; this is not some garbage I made up, and it&#8217;s not something pulled out of context. These are standalone commands from God, written in the Bible, for Christians to obey unquestioningly. That doesn&#8217;t mean obey them unless there&#8217;s a law against it, or obey them unless they make you feel bad.</p>

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<p>Remember, it specifically says <strong><em>not</em></strong> to take anything away from these commands, and keep in mind that God <em>knew</em> what the future would look like. If He intended that there be any wiggle room he would have included something to the effect of, &#8220;Unless there is a law against it later&#8230;&#8221;</p>

<p align="center"><strong>Quite simply, God has commanded that people die for working on Saturday, sleeping with someone other than their spouse, being gay, talking back to their parents, or saying &#8220;Jesus&#8221; or &#8220;God&#8221; when they are upset. If you as a Christian have seen those commands and have judged them unacceptable due to a man-made, secular morality then you are rejecting God outright. You have consciously chosen to place </strong><strong><em>man&#8217;s</em> laws above God.</strong></p>

<p>Make no mistake &#8212; this is not simply a failure to live up to expectations, this is active rejection. This is so-called &#8220;religious&#8221; people making <em>their own personal judgment</em> that the word of God should not be followed because it interferes with their morality.</p>

<p align="center">The point, of course, is not that moderate Christians should be killing people. What this shows us is that moderate Christians <strong>already</strong> reject God for precisely the same reason that Atheists do &#8211;<em> because the teachings in the Bible don&#8217;t make sense</em>.</p>

<p>Once you figure out that God really is demanding that all these people die, and that it&#8217;s quite easy for you to see that this is morally out of the question, it should be pretty easy to get to the next step:</p>

<blockquote><strong>So if that ugliness is supposed to be the literal word of God himself, and it&#8217;s clearly wrong, how can I trust <em>anything</em> in there?</strong></blockquote>

<p>Exactly. And that really only leaves two options for kind, thoughtful religious moderates:</p>

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    <li>Realize that human laws and knowledge are contrary to God. Join a &#8220;community&#8221; that owns lots of land that separates itself from the evils of human society and devotes itself to the <em>true</em> path. In short, become a fundamentalist.or&#8230;</li>
    <li>Accept that the Bible was written by superstitious men, and that the beautiful parts (of which there are many) can be incorporated into your life without having to subscribe to the fantasy of a God that wants people to be killed for working on Saturday.</li>
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		<title>Gallup Poll Shows Education Linked To Religious Belief</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 17:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Believe in the literal word of the Bible is strongest among those whose schooling stopped with high school and declines steadily with educational level, with only 20% of college graduates holding that view and 11% of those with an advanced degree. So, people who believe the literal word of the Bible: 31% total. 20% if [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Believe in the literal word of the Bible is strongest among those whose schooling stopped with high school and declines steadily with educational level, with only 20% of college graduates holding that view and 11% of those with an advanced degree.</blockquote>

<p>So, people who believe the <strong>literal</strong> word of the Bible:</p>

<p><strong>31%</strong> total.
<strong>20%</strong> if you have a basic degree.
<strong>11%</strong> if you have an advanced degree.</p>

<p>Once again, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ockham%27s_razor">Occam&#8217;s Razor</a>:</p>

<p><strong>Option 1:</strong> Education is secular in nature and leads people astray. It teaches people to question the origins of the Bible, the apparent (but untrue) contradictions within it, and its similarities with previous stories &#8212; all of which is wrong because the Bible warns against trying to gain too much worldly knowledge. The true way to gather knowledge is to stop worrying about what all this human (and therefore flawed) education says and read the scriptures as God intended.</p>

<p><strong>Option 2:</strong> The Bible is a collection of stories written by numerous authors, edited numerous times, over roughly 900 years. The only people who believe it to be the literal work of God are people who have been indoctrinated to believe so. As such, those who are exposed to education gain the benefit of perspective and are able to see what it truly is. The more education one has the more likely they 1) came from a family that didn&#8217;t harshly indoctrinate them as children, and 2) get more exposure to alternative ways of interpreting the world. Both of these lead to less chance of believing the Bible is the literal work of God.</p>

<p>Which seems more logical?</p>
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		<title>Should You Be Embarassed If You&#8217;re Pregnant?</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/should-you-be-embarassed-if-youre-pregnant</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Spanish you&#8217;re embarazada if you&#8217;re pregnant, which we know in English to have negative connotations associated with shame. I was told at some point in my Spanish studies that this stems from the Bible and the role of the woman in the original sin. Remember that God cursed women to have to suffer the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Spanish you&#8217;re <a href="http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=embarazada">embarazada</a> if you&#8217;re pregnant, which we know in English to have negative connotations associated with shame. I was told at some point in my Spanish studies that this stems from the Bible and the role of the woman in the original sin.</p>

<p>Remember that God cursed women to have to suffer the pain of child birth as a punishment for enticing Adam to eat the apple.It would make sense that showing the bulge of pregnancy would be an &#8220;embarassing&#8221; reminder of such a Holy curse. But again, I&#8217;m not sure this analysis is accurate. I don&#8217;t really see any support for it after a cursory glance at the definition.</p>
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