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	<title>Comments on: Why I Hate Mailing Lists</title>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/why-i-hate-mailing-lists/comment-page-1#comment-242334</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;A forum with an accompanying RSS/Atom feed&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A forum with an accompanying RSS/Atom feed&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: E</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/why-i-hate-mailing-lists/comment-page-1#comment-45524</link>
		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Any decent mail filter (e.g., procmail) can handle this problem&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any decent mail filter (e.g., procmail) can handle this problem</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/why-i-hate-mailing-lists/comment-page-1#comment-45435</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah.  A forum or nntp server works &lt;em&gt;so&lt;/em&gt; much better than a mailing list.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.  A forum or nntp server works <em>so</em> much better than a mailing list.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Darren Chamberlain</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/why-i-hate-mailing-lists/comment-page-1#comment-45416</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Chamberlain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve found that most of the lists I&#039;m on -- which are mostly deeply technical lists hosted by the w3.org, sourceforge, perl.org, python.org, and so on -- tend to not have this problem.  I don&#039;t know what kinds of lists you&#039;re on, of course, but I think the symptoms you are describing are symptoms of amateurism (not on your part; I mean the people who are setting up the autoresponders), and not inherent in the medium.  For many lists, something like Google/Yahoo groups are probably the most appropriate -- I think that those systems do a good job at filtering out this kind of thing, while mailman and majordomo don&#039;t even attempt it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@Marcin:  I have never been able to get into web-based message boards and forums.  The batch-based nature of the web simply doesn&#039;t translate well to an interactive conversation.  I&#039;ve yet to see a forums system that doesn&#039;t repeat all of the problems of usenet, without any of the solutions or optimizations that arose around usenet, like intelligent, protocol-specific clients and redistribution/local caching.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found that most of the lists I&#8217;m on &#8212; which are mostly deeply technical lists hosted by the w3.org, sourceforge, perl.org, python.org, and so on &#8212; tend to not have this problem.  I don&#8217;t know what kinds of lists you&#8217;re on, of course, but I think the symptoms you are describing are symptoms of amateurism (not on your part; I mean the people who are setting up the autoresponders), and not inherent in the medium.  For many lists, something like Google/Yahoo groups are probably the most appropriate &#8212; I think that those systems do a good job at filtering out this kind of thing, while mailman and majordomo don&#8217;t even attempt it.</p>

<p>@Marcin:  I have never been able to get into web-based message boards and forums.  The batch-based nature of the web simply doesn&#8217;t translate well to an interactive conversation.  I&#8217;ve yet to see a forums system that doesn&#8217;t repeat all of the problems of usenet, without any of the solutions or optimizations that arose around usenet, like intelligent, protocol-specific clients and redistribution/local caching.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel Miessler</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/why-i-hate-mailing-lists/comment-page-1#comment-45289</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 07:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting, I&#039;ll check into it. Do they have a link to it on altavista.com? That&#039;s where I search for stuff. ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, I&#8217;ll check into it. Do they have a link to it on altavista.com? That&#8217;s where I search for stuff. ;)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Marcin</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/why-i-hate-mailing-lists/comment-page-1#comment-45288</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 06:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, it&#039;s already out. It&#039;s called a forum or message board ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s already out. It&#8217;s called a forum or message board ;)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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