Comments on: War With Iran Before November: A Prediction + Scenarios http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios grep understanding Fri, 25 May 2012 02:15:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: PJ http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-2#comment-244705 PJ Mon, 10 May 2010 16:27:07 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-244705 <p>Fine, let em have the bomb, I'm sure it will make you sleep better at night knowing a country who's [bring it] doctrine is to die as a martyr, unlike Russia's agreement that the M.A.D scenario is real, and who is foolish enough to push the button? Sorry my friend but they are willing and able!<br>Plus they have threatend to wipe another country off the map!<br>no time to be playing the hippy here mate!</p> Fine, let em have the bomb, I'm sure it will make you sleep better at night knowing a country who's [bring it] doctrine is to die as a martyr, unlike Russia's agreement that the M.A.D scenario is real, and who is foolish enough to push the button? Sorry my friend but they are willing and able!
Plus they have threatend to wipe another country off the map!
no time to be playing the hippy here mate!

]]> By: PJ http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-2#comment-244183 PJ Mon, 10 May 2010 11:27:07 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-244183 <p>Fine, let em have the bomb, I'm sure it will make you sleep better at night knowing a country who's [bring it] doctrine is to die as a martyr, unlike Russia's agreement that the M.A.D scenario is real, and who is foolish enough to push the button? Sorry my friend but they are willing and able!<br>Plus they have threatend to wipe another country off the map!<br>no time to be playing the hippy here mate!</p> Fine, let em have the bomb, I'm sure it will make you sleep better at night knowing a country who's [bring it] doctrine is to die as a martyr, unlike Russia's agreement that the M.A.D scenario is real, and who is foolish enough to push the button? Sorry my friend but they are willing and able!
Plus they have threatend to wipe another country off the map!
no time to be playing the hippy here mate!

]]> By: Daniel Miessler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-2#comment-241931 Daniel Miessler Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:42:31 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-241931 <p>Lesson learned. Glad to be wrong on this one.</p> Lesson learned. Glad to be wrong on this one.

]]> By: Daniel Miessler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-241933 Daniel Miessler Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:42:08 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-241933 <p>Not well, it appears. Thanks for stopping by.</p> Not well, it appears. Thanks for stopping by.

]]> By: MZ http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-241932 MZ Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:07:31 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-241932 <p>how'd this prediction work out for ya?<br><br>jackass.</p> how'd this prediction work out for ya?

jackass.

]]> By: Daniel Miessler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-240461 Daniel Miessler Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:42:31 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-240461 <p>Lesson learned. Glad to be wrong on this one.</p> Lesson learned. Glad to be wrong on this one.

]]> By: Daniel Miessler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-240460 Daniel Miessler Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:42:08 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-240460 <p>Not well, it appears. Thanks for stopping by.</p> Not well, it appears. Thanks for stopping by.

]]> By: MZ http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-240459 MZ Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:07:31 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-240459 <p>how'd this prediction work out for ya?<br><br>jackass.</p> how'd this prediction work out for ya?

jackass.

]]> By: richmanwisco http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-216698 richmanwisco Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:37:21 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-216698 <p>The time has come and gone, and you were wrong. Now what?</p> The time has come and gone, and you were wrong. Now what?

]]> By: richmanwisco http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-251603 richmanwisco Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:37:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-251603 <p>The time has come and gone, and you were wrong. Now what?</p> The time has come and gone, and you were wrong. Now what?

]]> By: richmanwisco http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-251604 richmanwisco Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:37:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-251604 <p>The time has come and gone, and you were wrong. Now what?</p> The time has come and gone, and you were wrong. Now what?

]]> By: Julian Scutts http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-151617 Julian Scutts Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:42:13 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-151617 <p>Strange. The most extreme utterance so far on Iran has come from a leading Democrat. To 'obliterate' Iran suggests the massive use of weapons of mass destruction. That might provoke Iran's neighbors to take drastic measures themselves. To avoid this risk the attackers would have to reasure the neighbors that only 'limited' objectives were in mind - like the incapacition of nuclear research facilities and the takeover of Iranian oilfields in ethnically Arab areas. This would be to take a leaf out of Saddam Hussein's book, of course. Then he was almost an ally of the West until he did something stupid like invading Kuweit, an oilfield to far. This 'limited' strategy would also reassure the markets on the oil supply question and afford a useful bargaining counter to ensure the status quo ante. Even this 'safwer' strategy is fraught with uncertainties of course. Why can't they all be reasonable.</p> Strange. The most extreme utterance so far on Iran has come from a leading Democrat. To ‘obliterate’ Iran suggests the massive use of weapons of mass destruction. That might provoke Iran’s neighbors to take drastic measures themselves. To avoid this risk the attackers would have to reasure the neighbors that only ‘limited’ objectives were in mind – like the incapacition of nuclear research facilities and the takeover of Iranian oilfields in ethnically Arab areas. This would be to take a leaf out of Saddam Hussein’s book, of course. Then he was almost an ally of the West until he did something stupid like invading Kuweit, an oilfield to far. This ‘limited’ strategy would also reassure the markets on the oil supply question and afford a useful bargaining counter to ensure the status quo ante. Even this ‘safwer’ strategy is fraught with uncertainties of course. Why can’t they all be reasonable.

]]> By: Julian Scutts http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-251601 Julian Scutts Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:42:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-251601 <p>Strange. The most extreme utterance so far on Iran has come from a leading Democrat. To 'obliterate' Iran suggests the massive use of weapons of mass destruction. That might provoke Iran's neighbors to take drastic measures themselves. To avoid this risk the attackers would have to reasure the neighbors that only 'limited' objectives were in mind - like the incapacition of nuclear research facilities and the takeover of Iranian oilfields in ethnically Arab areas. This would be to take a leaf out of Saddam Hussein's book, of course. Then he was almost an ally of the West until he did something stupid like invading Kuweit, an oilfield to far. This 'limited' strategy would also reassure the markets on the oil supply question and afford a useful bargaining counter to ensure the status quo ante. Even this 'safwer' strategy is fraught with uncertainties of course. Why can't they all be reasonable.</p> Strange. The most extreme utterance so far on Iran has come from a leading Democrat. To ‘obliterate’ Iran suggests the massive use of weapons of mass destruction. That might provoke Iran’s neighbors to take drastic measures themselves. To avoid this risk the attackers would have to reasure the neighbors that only ‘limited’ objectives were in mind – like the incapacition of nuclear research facilities and the takeover of Iranian oilfields in ethnically Arab areas. This would be to take a leaf out of Saddam Hussein’s book, of course. Then he was almost an ally of the West until he did something stupid like invading Kuweit, an oilfield to far. This ‘limited’ strategy would also reassure the markets on the oil supply question and afford a useful bargaining counter to ensure the status quo ante. Even this ‘safwer’ strategy is fraught with uncertainties of course. Why can’t they all be reasonable.

]]> By: Julian Scutts http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-251602 Julian Scutts Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:42:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-251602 <p>Strange. The most extreme utterance so far on Iran has come from a leading Democrat. To 'obliterate' Iran suggests the massive use of weapons of mass destruction. That might provoke Iran's neighbors to take drastic measures themselves. To avoid this risk the attackers would have to reasure the neighbors that only 'limited' objectives were in mind - like the incapacition of nuclear research facilities and the takeover of Iranian oilfields in ethnically Arab areas. This would be to take a leaf out of Saddam Hussein's book, of course. Then he was almost an ally of the West until he did something stupid like invading Kuweit, an oilfield to far. This 'limited' strategy would also reassure the markets on the oil supply question and afford a useful bargaining counter to ensure the status quo ante. Even this 'safwer' strategy is fraught with uncertainties of course. Why can't they all be reasonable.</p> Strange. The most extreme utterance so far on Iran has come from a leading Democrat. To ‘obliterate’ Iran suggests the massive use of weapons of mass destruction. That might provoke Iran’s neighbors to take drastic measures themselves. To avoid this risk the attackers would have to reasure the neighbors that only ‘limited’ objectives were in mind – like the incapacition of nuclear research facilities and the takeover of Iranian oilfields in ethnically Arab areas. This would be to take a leaf out of Saddam Hussein’s book, of course. Then he was almost an ally of the West until he did something stupid like invading Kuweit, an oilfield to far. This ‘limited’ strategy would also reassure the markets on the oil supply question and afford a useful bargaining counter to ensure the status quo ante. Even this ‘safwer’ strategy is fraught with uncertainties of course. Why can’t they all be reasonable.

]]> By: JCD http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-149390 JCD Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:29:15 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-149390 <p>"This can, and very likely will, happen. The signs are very clear. The only question is, what can we do about it?"</p> <p>Absolutely nothing. Everyone who thinks like you and says the things you say are nothing more than a bunch of pathetic, parakeet liberal males and hags that are ruled by their emotions.</p> <p>You'll do nothing, because you are capable of so little to begin with, much less using your brain to search for facts without letting your pre-conceived world views and what you <em>want</em> to believe get in the way of reality.</p> “This can, and very likely will, happen. The signs are very clear. The only question is, what can we do about it?”

Absolutely nothing. Everyone who thinks like you and says the things you say are nothing more than a bunch of pathetic, parakeet liberal males and hags that are ruled by their emotions.

You’ll do nothing, because you are capable of so little to begin with, much less using your brain to search for facts without letting your pre-conceived world views and what you want to believe get in the way of reality.

]]> By: JCD http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-251599 JCD Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:29:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-251599 <p>"This can, and very likely will, happen. The signs are very clear. The only question is, what can we do about it?"</p> <p>Absolutely nothing. Everyone who thinks like you and says the things you say are nothing more than a bunch of pathetic, parakeet liberal males and hags that are ruled by their emotions.</p> <p>You'll do nothing, because you are capable of so little to begin with, much less using your brain to search for facts without letting your pre-conceived world views and what you <em>want</em> to believe get in the way of reality.</p> “This can, and very likely will, happen. The signs are very clear. The only question is, what can we do about it?”

Absolutely nothing. Everyone who thinks like you and says the things you say are nothing more than a bunch of pathetic, parakeet liberal males and hags that are ruled by their emotions.

You’ll do nothing, because you are capable of so little to begin with, much less using your brain to search for facts without letting your pre-conceived world views and what you want to believe get in the way of reality.

]]> By: JCD http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-251600 JCD Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:29:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-251600 <p>"This can, and very likely will, happen. The signs are very clear. The only question is, what can we do about it?"</p> <p>Absolutely nothing. Everyone who thinks like you and says the things you say are nothing more than a bunch of pathetic, parakeet liberal males and hags that are ruled by their emotions.</p> <p>You'll do nothing, because you are capable of so little to begin with, much less using your brain to search for facts without letting your pre-conceived world views and what you <em>want</em> to believe get in the way of reality.</p> “This can, and very likely will, happen. The signs are very clear. The only question is, what can we do about it?”

Absolutely nothing. Everyone who thinks like you and says the things you say are nothing more than a bunch of pathetic, parakeet liberal males and hags that are ruled by their emotions.

You’ll do nothing, because you are capable of so little to begin with, much less using your brain to search for facts without letting your pre-conceived world views and what you want to believe get in the way of reality.

]]> By: Jordan http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-142982 Jordan Wed, 07 May 2008 19:22:06 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-142982 <p>Well, what can we do about it? For those of us who agree that this is very likely to happen and not that the media will not face any backlash from the people when they spew jingoisms on the news... What can we actually do to voice out against it?</p> Well, what can we do about it? For those of us who agree that this is very likely to happen and not that the media will not face any backlash from the people when they spew jingoisms on the news… What can we actually do to voice out against it?

]]> By: Jordan http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-251598 Jordan Wed, 07 May 2008 19:22:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-251598 <p>Well, what can we do about it? For those of us who agree that this is very likely to happen and not that the media will not face any backlash from the people when they spew jingoisms on the news... What can we actually do to voice out against it?</p> Well, what can we do about it? For those of us who agree that this is very likely to happen and not that the media will not face any backlash from the people when they spew jingoisms on the news… What can we actually do to voice out against it?

]]> By: Harry http://danielmiessler.com/blog/war-with-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios/comment-page-1#comment-142491 Harry Tue, 06 May 2008 09:15:34 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/were-going-to-iran-before-november-a-prediction-scenarios#comment-142491 <p>I'm afraid you might be right Daniel.</p> <p>It's a fight for control of the Middle East and its oil, and all the pieces are set up for this game. It only takes the right time. I think they might use a combination of all three options you mentioned.</p> <p>The recently opened Iranian oil bourse will only be an extra stimulus for attack, as it takes the dollar further away from being the petrodollar and global trade currency. Saddam could do what he liked until he started to sell his oil for Euros.</p> <p>But I'm afraid Cheney will go atomic for this one as the military is stretched thin. They will certainly avoid damaging the oil wells and industry, so they might glaze the cities.</p> <p>Who will be able to stop them?</p> <p>After that I expect decades of insurgencies and attacks on pipelines and installations.</p> <p>It would be much wiser to invest all those recourses, lives and money into research for sustainable energy. But I'm pretty sure that this is not on any agenda as this would mean the end of the power game. Unless a new source of energy would end up in the hands of only a few...</p> I’m afraid you might be right Daniel.

It’s a fight for control of the Middle East and its oil, and all the pieces are set up for this game. It only takes the right time. I think they might use a combination of all three options you mentioned.

The recently opened Iranian oil bourse will only be an extra stimulus for attack, as it takes the dollar further away from being the petrodollar and global trade currency. Saddam could do what he liked until he started to sell his oil for Euros.

But I’m afraid Cheney will go atomic for this one as the military is stretched thin. They will certainly avoid damaging the oil wells and industry, so they might glaze the cities.

Who will be able to stop them?

After that I expect decades of insurgencies and attacks on pipelines and installations.

It would be much wiser to invest all those recourses, lives and money into research for sustainable energy. But I’m pretty sure that this is not on any agenda as this would mean the end of the power game. Unless a new source of energy would end up in the hands of only a few…

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