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		<title>By: Carl M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Brooks&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I thought that Obama was simply not letting McCain get away with the false accusations that he&#039;s been using in his campaign events and ads.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I thought that Obama was simply not letting McCain get away with the false accusations that he&#8217;s been using in his campaign events and ads.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Carl M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Brooks&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I thought that Obama was simply not letting McCain get away with the false accusations that he&#039;s been using in his campaign events and ads.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brooks</p>

<p>I thought that Obama was simply not letting McCain get away with the false accusations that he&#8217;s been using in his campaign events and ads.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brooks Garrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooks Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 04:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I saw a different debate. It seemed to me Obama was reaching to speak over McCain, often speaking during McCain&#039;s time to correct or &quot;clarify&quot; his position. It left me with a feeling of desperation on Obama&#039;s part that he could not wait his turn to rebuke the other Senator.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a different debate. It seemed to me Obama was reaching to speak over McCain, often speaking during McCain&#8217;s time to correct or &#8220;clarify&#8221; his position. It left me with a feeling of desperation on Obama&#8217;s part that he could not wait his turn to rebuke the other Senator.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brooks Garrett</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/thoughts-on-the-first-debate/comment-page-1#comment-252892</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooks Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 04:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I saw a different debate. It seemed to me Obama was reaching to speak over McCain, often speaking during McCain&#039;s time to correct or &quot;clarify&quot; his position. It left me with a feeling of desperation on Obama&#039;s part that he could not wait his turn to rebuke the other Senator.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a different debate. It seemed to me Obama was reaching to speak over McCain, often speaking during McCain&#8217;s time to correct or &#8220;clarify&#8221; his position. It left me with a feeling of desperation on Obama&#8217;s part that he could not wait his turn to rebuke the other Senator.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/thoughts-on-the-first-debate/comment-page-1#comment-205131</link>
		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One other thing I’ll mention is the fact that McCain never once looked at Obama. That’s just unprofessional and disrespectful. The motherfucker won his party’s nomination. He’s got a degree from Harvard, but you can’t even address him when the moderator asks you to? This is the kind of thing that makes me severly dislike McCain as a person.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I kept reading this all over digg and reddit.... I don&#039;t get it.  Obama got called out for exactly the same thing (first 20 minutes or so).  The opponent isn&#039;t asking the questions, the moderator is.  The opponent isn&#039;t who their talking to either, the public is.  Obama and McCain aren&#039;t trying to change each other&#039;s minds they are talking directly to the voters looking for votes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll readily admit Obama is a better debater but McCain pulled a good show and made strong points, and you are definitely reaching if that is the best you can pin on him... that he didn&#039;t look at Obama with sincereful eyes enough.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>One other thing I’ll mention is the fact that McCain never once looked at Obama. That’s just unprofessional and disrespectful. The motherfucker won his party’s nomination. He’s got a degree from Harvard, but you can’t even address him when the moderator asks you to? This is the kind of thing that makes me severly dislike McCain as a person.</blockquote>

<p>I kept reading this all over digg and reddit&#8230;. I don&#8217;t get it.  Obama got called out for exactly the same thing (first 20 minutes or so).  The opponent isn&#8217;t asking the questions, the moderator is.  The opponent isn&#8217;t who their talking to either, the public is.  Obama and McCain aren&#8217;t trying to change each other&#8217;s minds they are talking directly to the voters looking for votes.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ll readily admit Obama is a better debater but McCain pulled a good show and made strong points, and you are definitely reaching if that is the best you can pin on him&#8230; that he didn&#8217;t look at Obama with sincereful eyes enough.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/thoughts-on-the-first-debate/comment-page-1#comment-252891</link>
		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One other thing I’ll mention is the fact that McCain never once looked at Obama. That’s just unprofessional and disrespectful. The motherfucker won his party’s nomination. He’s got a degree from Harvard, but you can’t even address him when the moderator asks you to? This is the kind of thing that makes me severly dislike McCain as a person.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I kept reading this all over digg and reddit.... I don&#039;t get it.  Obama got called out for exactly the same thing (first 20 minutes or so).  The opponent isn&#039;t asking the questions, the moderator is.  The opponent isn&#039;t who their talking to either, the public is.  Obama and McCain aren&#039;t trying to change each other&#039;s minds they are talking directly to the voters looking for votes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll readily admit Obama is a better debater but McCain pulled a good show and made strong points, and you are definitely reaching if that is the best you can pin on him... that he didn&#039;t look at Obama with sincereful eyes enough.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>One other thing I’ll mention is the fact that McCain never once looked at Obama. That’s just unprofessional and disrespectful. The motherfucker won his party’s nomination. He’s got a degree from Harvard, but you can’t even address him when the moderator asks you to? This is the kind of thing that makes me severly dislike McCain as a person.</blockquote>

<p>I kept reading this all over digg and reddit&#8230;. I don&#8217;t get it.  Obama got called out for exactly the same thing (first 20 minutes or so).  The opponent isn&#8217;t asking the questions, the moderator is.  The opponent isn&#8217;t who their talking to either, the public is.  Obama and McCain aren&#8217;t trying to change each other&#8217;s minds they are talking directly to the voters looking for votes.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ll readily admit Obama is a better debater but McCain pulled a good show and made strong points, and you are definitely reaching if that is the best you can pin on him&#8230; that he didn&#8217;t look at Obama with sincereful eyes enough.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Carl M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with what Jason wrote .. and I too noticed the strong similarity between what Obama said and your point recently that UNLESS we give negotiation an honest try, then we&#039;re not going to have the support of our allies .. and if we do and it doesn&#039;t work, then military would be a last resort and other countries would be more likely to support us.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the Palin subject, even those on the far right are getting nervous.  The link below is to an article on the National Review online (a Conservative publication -- in case you weren&#039;t already aware).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what Jason wrote .. and I too noticed the strong similarity between what Obama said and your point recently that UNLESS we give negotiation an honest try, then we&#8217;re not going to have the support of our allies .. and if we do and it doesn&#8217;t work, then military would be a last resort and other countries would be more likely to support us.</p>

<p>On the Palin subject, even those on the far right are getting nervous.  The link below is to an article on the National Review online (a Conservative publication &#8212; in case you weren&#8217;t already aware).</p>

<p><a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=" rel="nofollow">http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Carl M</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/thoughts-on-the-first-debate/comment-page-1#comment-252890</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with what Jason wrote .. and I too noticed the strong similarity between what Obama said and your point recently that UNLESS we give negotiation an honest try, then we&#039;re not going to have the support of our allies .. and if we do and it doesn&#039;t work, then military would be a last resort and other countries would be more likely to support us.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the Palin subject, even those on the far right are getting nervous.  The link below is to an article on the National Review online (a Conservative publication -- in case you weren&#039;t already aware).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what Jason wrote .. and I too noticed the strong similarity between what Obama said and your point recently that UNLESS we give negotiation an honest try, then we&#8217;re not going to have the support of our allies .. and if we do and it doesn&#8217;t work, then military would be a last resort and other countries would be more likely to support us.</p>

<p>On the Palin subject, even those on the far right are getting nervous.  The link below is to an article on the National Review online (a Conservative publication &#8212; in case you weren&#8217;t already aware).</p>

<p><a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=" rel="nofollow">http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason Powell</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/thoughts-on-the-first-debate/comment-page-1#comment-204915</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;I don’t know–I think McCain looked more aggressive and more confident...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I read the opposite--defensive and insecure.  No eye contact, uncomfortable, constant grin.  Obama pummeled him with fact--the sworn enemy of Christian conservatives.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Obama&#039;s arguments were more sophisticated in construction.  He repeatedly refuted McCain&#039;s central points.  McCain retreated to virtual name calling (e.g., &quot;naive,&quot; or, about the same, &quot;Sen. Obama doesn&#039;t understand&quot;), and he outright misconstrued Obama&#039;s actions on bills, etc.  It&#039;s easier for viewers to hear McCain call Obama &quot;bad&quot; than it is for them to understand Obama refuting McCain&#039;s basis for doing so.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Obama won the debate from a logical standpoint, on all of the topics.  When it came to Iran, he virtually repeated what you yourself wrote not long ago--that he would try discussion first and the army last, and that was the only way to have the trust of other nations in our actions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s unfortunate, but name-calling is a very effective tactic.  I think McCain started so many of his points with it because it gave him time to construct a retort in his head.  I also think that many of his supporters &lt;em&gt;believed&lt;/em&gt; what he was saying--that Obama just &quot;doesn&#039;t get it.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think McCain was visibly shaken when he left that stage last night.  And I don&#039;t think he&#039;s going to be any more prepared for future debates.  He&#039;s got an ace up his sleeve, though, and it&#039;s the raw emotion of calling Obama names and distorting Obama&#039;s stance--if anything, I think he&#039;s going to play that card even more.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On another note, I think Palin would stand as little chance of winning her debate if Biden let a 5th grader stand in for him.  Maybe less of a chance.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t know–I think McCain looked more aggressive and more confident&#8230;&#8221;</p>

<p>I read the opposite&#8211;defensive and insecure.  No eye contact, uncomfortable, constant grin.  Obama pummeled him with fact&#8211;the sworn enemy of Christian conservatives.</p>

<p>Obama&#8217;s arguments were more sophisticated in construction.  He repeatedly refuted McCain&#8217;s central points.  McCain retreated to virtual name calling (e.g., &#8220;naive,&#8221; or, about the same, &#8220;Sen. Obama doesn&#8217;t understand&#8221;), and he outright misconstrued Obama&#8217;s actions on bills, etc.  It&#8217;s easier for viewers to hear McCain call Obama &#8220;bad&#8221; than it is for them to understand Obama refuting McCain&#8217;s basis for doing so.</p>

<p>Obama won the debate from a logical standpoint, on all of the topics.  When it came to Iran, he virtually repeated what you yourself wrote not long ago&#8211;that he would try discussion first and the army last, and that was the only way to have the trust of other nations in our actions.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate, but name-calling is a very effective tactic.  I think McCain started so many of his points with it because it gave him time to construct a retort in his head.  I also think that many of his supporters <em>believed</em> what he was saying&#8211;that Obama just &#8220;doesn&#8217;t get it.&#8221;</p>

<p>I think McCain was visibly shaken when he left that stage last night.  And I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s going to be any more prepared for future debates.  He&#8217;s got an ace up his sleeve, though, and it&#8217;s the raw emotion of calling Obama names and distorting Obama&#8217;s stance&#8211;if anything, I think he&#8217;s going to play that card even more.</p>

<p>On another note, I think Palin would stand as little chance of winning her debate if Biden let a 5th grader stand in for him.  Maybe less of a chance.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;I don’t know–I think McCain looked more aggressive and more confident...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I read the opposite--defensive and insecure.  No eye contact, uncomfortable, constant grin.  Obama pummeled him with fact--the sworn enemy of Christian conservatives.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Obama&#039;s arguments were more sophisticated in construction.  He repeatedly refuted McCain&#039;s central points.  McCain retreated to virtual name calling (e.g., &quot;naive,&quot; or, about the same, &quot;Sen. Obama doesn&#039;t understand&quot;), and he outright misconstrued Obama&#039;s actions on bills, etc.  It&#039;s easier for viewers to hear McCain call Obama &quot;bad&quot; than it is for them to understand Obama refuting McCain&#039;s basis for doing so.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Obama won the debate from a logical standpoint, on all of the topics.  When it came to Iran, he virtually repeated what you yourself wrote not long ago--that he would try discussion first and the army last, and that was the only way to have the trust of other nations in our actions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s unfortunate, but name-calling is a very effective tactic.  I think McCain started so many of his points with it because it gave him time to construct a retort in his head.  I also think that many of his supporters &lt;em&gt;believed&lt;/em&gt; what he was saying--that Obama just &quot;doesn&#039;t get it.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think McCain was visibly shaken when he left that stage last night.  And I don&#039;t think he&#039;s going to be any more prepared for future debates.  He&#039;s got an ace up his sleeve, though, and it&#039;s the raw emotion of calling Obama names and distorting Obama&#039;s stance--if anything, I think he&#039;s going to play that card even more.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On another note, I think Palin would stand as little chance of winning her debate if Biden let a 5th grader stand in for him.  Maybe less of a chance.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t know–I think McCain looked more aggressive and more confident&#8230;&#8221;</p>

<p>I read the opposite&#8211;defensive and insecure.  No eye contact, uncomfortable, constant grin.  Obama pummeled him with fact&#8211;the sworn enemy of Christian conservatives.</p>

<p>Obama&#8217;s arguments were more sophisticated in construction.  He repeatedly refuted McCain&#8217;s central points.  McCain retreated to virtual name calling (e.g., &#8220;naive,&#8221; or, about the same, &#8220;Sen. Obama doesn&#8217;t understand&#8221;), and he outright misconstrued Obama&#8217;s actions on bills, etc.  It&#8217;s easier for viewers to hear McCain call Obama &#8220;bad&#8221; than it is for them to understand Obama refuting McCain&#8217;s basis for doing so.</p>

<p>Obama won the debate from a logical standpoint, on all of the topics.  When it came to Iran, he virtually repeated what you yourself wrote not long ago&#8211;that he would try discussion first and the army last, and that was the only way to have the trust of other nations in our actions.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate, but name-calling is a very effective tactic.  I think McCain started so many of his points with it because it gave him time to construct a retort in his head.  I also think that many of his supporters <em>believed</em> what he was saying&#8211;that Obama just &#8220;doesn&#8217;t get it.&#8221;</p>

<p>I think McCain was visibly shaken when he left that stage last night.  And I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s going to be any more prepared for future debates.  He&#8217;s got an ace up his sleeve, though, and it&#8217;s the raw emotion of calling Obama names and distorting Obama&#8217;s stance&#8211;if anything, I think he&#8217;s going to play that card even more.</p>

<p>On another note, I think Palin would stand as little chance of winning her debate if Biden let a 5th grader stand in for him.  Maybe less of a chance.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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