There’s No Such Thing as Gay

By Daniel Miessler on July 23rd, 2010: Tagged as Culture | Homosexuality
  • Tasctasc+dm

    Yeah, gay people and straight people are like day and night. There isn't day or night, just different level of exposure to the electromagnetic radiation, except of course you bump into things.

    Seriously, thought. “Leave Rachel alone!” would be a better content for this post.

  • CarlM

    Tasctasc is making the same point I was going to make. Your argument doesn't support your conclusion. It is absurd to claim that there is no such thing as gay. To make such a claim, you must not know any gay people (hard to believe) or at least not talked to them about this hypothesis. Are all gays the same? Are all heterosexuals? No. Are all lesbians masculine? No. Are all gays feminine? No. Do people assume that “masculine” females are lesbians? Some people do (apparently you do). Are these masculine women lesbians? Some are. Some aren't. Ditto for males with “feminine” characteristics. Your argument simply suggests that there are bisexuals in the world.

    I applaud your goal here (equal treatment for everyone), but you're making some incredibly broad statements (perhaps without supporting data) – not only are you suggesting that most men who do interior design are gay, you're suggesting that they're “bottoms”. Do you have data to support this or just prejudice (which means judging without evidence)?

    You also seem to have chosen a convenient definition of “clearly masculine person” in your tennis example. You seem to mean strong and athletic which makes your argument silly (and perhaps a tad offensive to women). The argument becomes: “Why would it surprise that a strong and athletic person can beat a woman.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-David-Baucum/1447609630 Jack David Baucum

    I'm with the other two. You argument didn't demonstrate your hypothesis.
    I absolutely know people who are gay. And gay absolutely describes them.
    Just like anything else, not everybody fits nicely into strict gay/straight definitions. I had a friend in highschool who would engage in sex with other females, but she didn't really identify herself as gay, or even necessarily bisexual. She only had relationships with men, and eventually got married to a man. The physical act of sex with women was pleasurable for her, but relationships with women did not interest her at all.
    There's people all over the spectrum, and when it comes to biological sexual identification, and person sexual identity, things can get really complicated if one is looking for rigid boxes to label people. However, I don't think that rules out that “gay” does not exist.

  • http://danielmiessler.com/ Daniel Miessler

    I think you guys missed that the point of the title was not that there were no actual gays, but that the distinction is neither accurate or pertinent. The point is that we should be thinking beyond this breakdown.

  • cooperati

    I believe homosexuality IS more of a political identity that is proscribed to those of a particular process of coitus for various reasons.

    For scores of centuries the act of coitus between two or more members of the same sex has existed, but it's never been politically relevant until this, our lifetime.

    Concurrently, and not coincidentally, the name and identity of these particular relationships co-existed passively, non-threateningly, in modern societies.

    After racial minorities began their push for established rights protecting them, after women initialized the impetus of equal rights for minorities, sexual and gender minorities began their push. In the meantime, they needed to exaggerate their difference, and are now recognized and identified in stereotypical fashion; marching in flamboyant themes, gender bending attire and behavior, and most absolutely in political activity.

    Technical homosexuals of the older generations, who lived normal lives without labels, still exist today, having never gone to a rally, a march, or therapy for feeling particularly ostracized and mistreated. This sect mingles with people everyday, without more than the vaguest hint that they lead any different a life than anyone else.

    So, this clearly leaves those activists who want to be known as “gay” as the epitome of a personality archetype.

    This also has a bit of an altering effect on the private life prescription to the gay identity; they automatically feel indebted to be activists themselves, having been indoctrinated to a history of persecution.

    And this leaves “closet gays” as the proverbial “Uncle Toms”, derogatory terms in their own respective societies.

    -=T=-

  • Jselcar

    is there any label that is true then….Gay… Wuss…fat ass.??yes there are fat people but becaues its rude to call them that its not a reason to not make it real.

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