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	<title>Comments on: The Worst Anti-Spam Technique Ever: &#8220;Bouncing&#8221; Spam Messages</title>
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		<title>By: Arik</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-worst-anti-spam-technique-ever-bouncing-spam-messages/comment-page-1#comment-10939</link>
		<dc:creator>Arik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 05:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another technique which I personally don&#039;t like but is being used:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;First attempt from an IP address, reply with a 4xy SMTP error code (to those not versed in SMTP, it means &#039;temporary problem, please try later&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Second attempt from the same IP address for the same recipient: process normally.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The idea is that spamming software doesn&#039;t manage a &#039;deferred&#039; queue and would just give up on messages that get a transient (4xy) error message.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The downside is that legit messages take a long time to get there, some 5 minutes at least.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not sure how well that works.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-- Arik&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another technique which I personally don&#8217;t like but is being used:</p>

<p>First attempt from an IP address, reply with a 4xy SMTP error code (to those not versed in SMTP, it means &#8216;temporary problem, please try later&#8217;.</p>

<p>Second attempt from the same IP address for the same recipient: process normally.</p>

<p>The idea is that spamming software doesn&#8217;t manage a &#8216;deferred&#8217; queue and would just give up on messages that get a transient (4xy) error message.</p>

<p>The downside is that legit messages take a long time to get there, some 5 minutes at least.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m not sure how well that works.</p>

<p>&#8211; Arik</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Carl M</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-worst-anti-spam-technique-ever-bouncing-spam-messages/comment-page-1#comment-10913</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He&#039;s not replying to the message, he&#039;s &quot;bouncing&quot; it back ... basically the system sends back the same &quot;This is an invalid address&quot; message that gets sent when mail is sent to an invalid address.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is not to say that this is a good idea.  But it&#039;s not quite as stupid as just replying to the spammer to tell him that you&#039;d really rather that he didn&#039;t send you advertisements for v1aG ra.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not replying to the message, he&#8217;s &#8220;bouncing&#8221; it back &#8230; basically the system sends back the same &#8220;This is an invalid address&#8221; message that gets sent when mail is sent to an invalid address.</p>

<p>This is not to say that this is a good idea.  But it&#8217;s not quite as stupid as just replying to the spammer to tell him that you&#8217;d really rather that he didn&#8217;t send you advertisements for v1aG ra.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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