The Simple Truth About Religion That Liberals Ignore

By Daniel Miessler on August 11th, 2010: Tagged as Politics | Religion
  • http://kenswain.com Anonymous

    So, just for clarification, what are you saying should be done about religion?

  • http://danielmiessler.com/ Daniel Miessler

    I am saying it should be acknowledged as a source of conflict and negativity for humanity, and we should grow out of it. We should replace it with humanism, just as we replaced alchemy with chemistry and demons with germ theory.

  • http://kenswain.com Anonymous

    Ok if we acknowledge that it is a source of conflict for the religious, we must also acknowledge that things like this do not change overnight if ever. People have been trying to change and/or eradicate religion for longer than christianity has been around. My point here is this, I acknowledge the conflict but am also rational. People have a deep need for religion as it is part of human nature. So the only way to “grow out of it” right now would be to outlaw it. I don’t think that is what you are suggesting. I just think that people will have this deep need for a long time to come. So in the absence of being able to make radical change I think it would be more appropriate to fallow what you say some are doing and that is temperance. Do you not feel that is a step in the direction that would be a valuable step.

  • Maxo

    You are right and you are wrong. If the Bible really is espousing facts, then following the laws and commandments of God and Jesus is really, really important. In fact, it’s the most important thing there is. That’s where you cease to be right. Where you fail is assuming that religious extremists are doing this. Killing abortion doctors is against the word of God. Hating homosexuals is against the word of God. If you really want to take it far enough, those of us who are believers should under no circumstances defend ourselves, or refuse to give up any and everything that we own. Jesus very clearly and explicitly forbid this. No Christians should be in the military, or in a court room as either a defendant or plantent. We should always be completely passive and forgiving. It’s not the extremists who have got it right, it’s the Amish and monks who have got it right. I am complete failure as a Christian. I covet, I want, I desire. I compromise to fulfill my own hedonism. I desire, and then I struggle to quench my wants. If everyone in the United States really took following Jesus’ teachings seriously, STDs, pregnant teens, war, poverty, bigotry, and crime would all be irrelevant. I submit to you that even if the Bible was almost completely false, as far as being historically factual, humanity would still benefit from it if we none-the-less followed the teachings of Jesus. His teaching promote humility, passivity, and cooperation. It is a source of embarrassment for me that the Christian culture, instead, promotes pride, excess, and discontent.

    • Maxo

      I post the following with the full disclosure that the Bible is a complex book, and passages must be understood within their contexts, which is hard to convey in small snippets such as these. These come from the book of Matthew. 5:39 “Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.” 5:44-46 “Love your enemies[i] and pray for those who persecute you. … If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? … if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others?” 6:9 “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth … where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.” 7:1-5 “”Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”

      • Ploppismcfafa

        Ah yes, religion. Sparking philosophical debates since 2500 bc, & where the rational mind which could be highly trained in understanding and logic but fails to grasp the concept faith. One question that arises in a believer should be: Do I worship God? or do I pay homage to dead spirits and false idols, because Hell will be the final fate of any who practices falsehood. Death & Disease!! there is a price to sin and enough evidence around the world to prove it. Religion is evil, and the entire planet rests under the shadow of sin. Forgiveness, Jesus, the basis of history being forever measured by B.C. or A.D. Yes God Put He His Son Who was and is God in the form of a Man. His Death and resurrection became a turning point that many counties around the world began to have God and the holy spirit because they being not in pride or hardness of heart could feel the spirit of truth and they knew. Because faith is divided it even amongst itself. So who can see the difference between Gold and Pyrite from a mile away no one unless the Lord reveals it to them, the humble and the faithful


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