So in the article it says Noah’s god felt guilty for trying to drown the world. I thought god doesn’t commit sin. When he does as the article states, who does he confess to ?

Religion is bullshit and ridiculous stone-age mentality of maintaining and controling society. Get stoned and look into a telescope then think your little comedy childrens fiction book. I personally find the bible to be the funniest comedy book i’ve ever read. It’s completely filled with bee-ess.

U fuking idiots.

I am really not in fear of God. I anxiously await the moment I am in God’s presence, I have questions! I do not like this plane, world, or anyway you wish to describe it. Too much evil, too much hatred, too much ugly. The problem is, it will never be any better. The free you stated is a state of mind. The evil I am stating is evident in everyday life throughout the world. The freedom you state is for the individual. I agree, “you” can be free from all the evil that exists, but only in “your” mind. The many are still affected by evil.I am affected by evil. The hungry, the poor, the hated, the exterminated…

I do not believe that the punishment written, as it is, even exists. As I understand it, the ten commandments are the only laws we have to follow. These simple 10 rules can even be found in other ancient writings. Did Moses steal some of them? Maybe from the Egyptions? Entirely possible. Remember, man “wrote” and “recorded by writing” the bible. So? Who is to say that God did not inspire the Egyptians to write these same rules? They blew it due to free will and so God chose to the “Sea People” or the Hebrews in order to bring his creation, man, back to Him. (or so it was written by man)

Yes I would believe the way I was taught had I been born in another land or time. So what? The God I know exists on a spiritual level and sees our true selves, not these petty little differences between us in this world and on this plane of existance. Not the different Gods we have created. I do not have the “amswers”, but neither do you or anyone else. As stated above, man does not have the capacity to know all things. I hold sorrow for those that feel that this is all there is. I feel sorrow for those that believe that when these bodies fail and cease to live that the entity and true core of that person that was, was nothing more than a few chemistry equasions.

The spiritual level on which God exists and we will eventually return to is just that. An energy that man can not explain as there are no words. It is there that the evil will not exist. Evil will not burn in fire as fire is physical, but eveil will simply not exist.

I feel that the punishment you speak of will be more of a removal from the center of what God truly is. The more spiritual and faithful to the ten commandments one is, the closer to the center one will reside.

Even in different faiths, within those faiths the followers are to believe that their God is The God. O.K. Still the ten commandments exist. Worded different, but they exist.

The angst I feel from time to time toward God due to my lack of understanding is only a testiment to my belief in God. The energy put forth by those trying to prove God does not exist is also a testimony in their core belief that God Does exist.

You simply can not get around the fact that man bases all of his beliefs and faith on what he has gathered in knowledge from his experiences. This is a very limited amount of knowledge. Now put that into perspective. What are we on the physical plane, compared to the star creating gases captured on photos by the hubble telescope? Less than a speck, that’s what. So how can we presume to know enough about anything to assume the posture of arguing that God, by our weak definitions, does not exist?

I am really not in fear of God. I anxiously await the moment I am in God’s presence, I have questions! I do not like this plane, world, or anyway you wish to describe it. Too much evil, too much hatred, too much ugly. The problem is, it will never be any better. The free you stated is a state of mind. The evil I am stating is evident in everyday life throughout the world. The freedom you state is for the individual. I agree, “you” can be free from all the evil that exists, but only in “your” mind. The many are still affected by evil.I am affected by evil. The hungry, the poor, the hated, the exterminated…

I do not believe that the punishment written, as it is, even exists. As I understand it, the ten commandments are the only laws we have to follow. These simple 10 rules can even be found in other ancient writings. Did Moses steal some of them? Maybe from the Egyptions? Entirely possible. Remember, man “wrote” and “recorded by writing” the bible. So? Who is to say that God did not inspire the Egyptians to write these same rules? They blew it due to free will and so God chose to the “Sea People” or the Hebrews in order to bring his creation, man, back to Him. (or so it was written by man)

Yes I would believe the way I was taught had I been born in another land or time. So what? The God I know exists on a spiritual level and sees our true selves, not these petty little differences between us in this world and on this plane of existance. Not the different Gods we have created. I do not have the “amswers”, but neither do you or anyone else. As stated above, man does not have the capacity to know all things. I hold sorrow for those that feel that this is all there is. I feel sorrow for those that believe that when these bodies fail and cease to live that the entity and true core of that person that was, was nothing more than a few chemistry equasions.

The spiritual level on which God exists and we will eventually return to is just that. An energy that man can not explain as there are no words. It is there that the evil will not exist. Evil will not burn in fire as fire is physical, but eveil will simply not exist.

I feel that the punishment you speak of will be more of a removal from the center of what God truly is. The more spiritual and faithful to the ten commandments one is, the closer to the center one will reside.

Even in different faiths, within those faiths the followers are to believe that their God is The God. O.K. Still the ten commandments exist. Worded different, but they exist.

The angst I feel from time to time toward God due to my lack of understanding is only a testiment to my belief in God. The energy put forth by those trying to prove God does not exist is also a testimony in their core belief that God Does exist.

You simply can not get around the fact that man bases all of his beliefs and faith on what he has gathered in knowledge from his experiences. This is a very limited amount of knowledge. Now put that into perspective. What are we on the physical plane, compared to the star creating gases captured on photos by the hubble telescope? Less than a speck, that’s what. So how can we presume to know enough about anything to assume the posture of arguing that God, by our weak definitions, does not exist?

You said: I would much rather believe in God and find out I was wrong when I cease to exist in this horrible place filled with man’s evil than to not believe in God and find out I was wrong in the same way. Wouldn’t you?

I find it a sad existence to hedge one’s bets in such an obviously fear-based approach to living. You’d think the same way about Zeus or Allah if you grew up in another time or place. The simple fact is that you’ve been indoctrinated to fear something, and you’d rather die fearing and believing that doctrine than face the punishment it promises for not doing so.

This doesn’t make you a bad person. I know many great people who are in the exact same position. I don’t blame you for the damage that’s been done to you, but I do pity you for not being free.

And by the way, the argument that you just put forth is hundreds of years old. It’s called Pascal’s wager. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager

You said: I would much rather believe in God and find out I was wrong when I cease to exist in this horrible place filled with man’s evil than to not believe in God and find out I was wrong in the same way. Wouldn’t you?

I find it a sad existence to hedge one’s bets in such an obviously fear-based approach to living. You’d think the same way about Zeus or Allah if you grew up in another time or place. The simple fact is that you’ve been indoctrinated to fear something, and you’d rather die fearing and believing that doctrine than face the punishment it promises for not doing so.

This doesn’t make you a bad person. I know many great people who are in the exact same position. I don’t blame you for the damage that’s been done to you, but I do pity you for not being free.

And by the way, the argument that you just put forth is hundreds of years old. It’s called Pascal’s wager. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager

Man is fault ridden. Man can not do anything at all perfectly. Man has never created anything from nothing. The bible is written by man thus full of mistakes and faults. God may have inspired it, but man screwed it up as man it always apt to do. Religion is a creation of man. All religions are faulted from their conception.

God is without fault. Yes the earth is older than 5 – 10 thousand years. Proven by science, again a mans creation.

Man has become so arrogant as a result of advancement in intelligence and science. But, man can still not say absolutely how anything was created from nothing.

Man simply does not have the capacity to “know” these things nad never will. We will destroy ourselves long before the time we need to advance to a level of understanding to “know” all of the answers.

I submit that there is God. Not the same God that we have created but the God that created us and all things. The more arrogant man becomes, the more we want to create a God that fits neatly into our perception of what is.

This is ultimately going to lead to our demise. Once we reach the point, many, many years from now, that we feel we cxan explain everything and in our minds, as small as they are, believe we have reached God equality, we will face the one true God.

Seems to me that you are just not getting it. You will open your mind to an athiest’s beliefs, suppported by theory, yet you will not open your mind to the true meaning and very teachings of God? The stories in the Bible may in fact be stories that are similar to other stories not included in the Bible from other cultures and times. Does this negate the meanings of the stories? The core truths? Funny how man will do far more work to disprove the existance of God than to do the simplest thing and “know” that God exists. Lay religion aside, there is still an inherent seed in man that looks up and searches for God.

I offer this simple statement: I would much rather believe in God and find out I was wrong when I cease to exist in this horrible place filled with man’s evil than to not believe in God and find out I was wrong in the same way. Wouldn’t you?

Man is fault ridden. Man can not do anything at all perfectly. Man has never created anything from nothing. The bible is written by man thus full of mistakes and faults. God may have inspired it, but man screwed it up as man it always apt to do. Religion is a creation of man. All religions are faulted from their conception.

God is without fault. Yes the earth is older than 5 – 10 thousand years. Proven by science, again a mans creation.

Man has become so arrogant as a result of advancement in intelligence and science. But, man can still not say absolutely how anything was created from nothing.

Man simply does not have the capacity to “know” these things nad never will. We will destroy ourselves long before the time we need to advance to a level of understanding to “know” all of the answers.

I submit that there is God. Not the same God that we have created but the God that created us and all things. The more arrogant man becomes, the more we want to create a God that fits neatly into our perception of what is.

This is ultimately going to lead to our demise. Once we reach the point, many, many years from now, that we feel we cxan explain everything and in our minds, as small as they are, believe we have reached God equality, we will face the one true God.

Seems to me that you are just not getting it. You will open your mind to an athiest’s beliefs, suppported by theory, yet you will not open your mind to the true meaning and very teachings of God? The stories in the Bible may in fact be stories that are similar to other stories not included in the Bible from other cultures and times. Does this negate the meanings of the stories? The core truths? Funny how man will do far more work to disprove the existance of God than to do the simplest thing and “know” that God exists. Lay religion aside, there is still an inherent seed in man that looks up and searches for God.

I offer this simple statement: I would much rather believe in God and find out I was wrong when I cease to exist in this horrible place filled with man’s evil than to not believe in God and find out I was wrong in the same way. Wouldn’t you?

Break it down even more, if you were catholic you looked at protestants as a lower level of christianity. Its all sillyness.

I was born into the catholic faith and I was rushed off to be baptized within a few months. I didn’t really have a choice. Like most religions your families doctrinate you into there belief structure and thus religion is more or less a family tradition.

When I became old enough to make my own decisions in life and look at most belief structures in the world and those that don’t have any, I can honestly say most generalational believers do so out of fear of offending their families.