Comments on: The Best Retort for the “Atheists Are Arrogant” Argument http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument grep understanding Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:44:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jaap Winius http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-258331 Jaap Winius Tue, 08 Nov 2011 00:24:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-258331 <blockquote> <p>Atheism is another ism...</p> </blockquote> <p>Not true. "ism" is a suffix used for uncountable nouns to indicate adherence to a political or religious ideology. Atheism, however, is not an ideology, but simply a label with a negative connotation given by religious believers to people who do not have a religion or believe in a god.</p>

Atheism is another ism…

Not true. “ism” is a suffix used for uncountable nouns to indicate adherence to a political or religious ideology. Atheism, however, is not an ideology, but simply a label with a negative connotation given by religious believers to people who do not have a religion or believe in a god.

]]> By: Gary http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-2#comment-257658 Gary Fri, 05 Aug 2011 04:45:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-257658 <p>Quite possibly evidence of something as defined by someone. Therefore without firsthand knowledge of the actual situation, people fill in the blanks. LOTS of blanks, with well, whatever suits them. therefore the ultimate truth may never be known, so by default everyone should be agnostic until the theory can be proven.</p> Quite possibly evidence of something as defined by someone. Therefore without firsthand knowledge of the actual situation, people fill in the blanks. LOTS of blanks, with well, whatever suits them. therefore the ultimate truth may never be known, so by default everyone should be agnostic until the theory can be proven.

]]> By: Eznight http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-2#comment-257606 Eznight Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:42:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-257606 <p>So what you are saying is that having knowledge is arrogant. And that studying and finding the irrefutable truth claims of the Bible should just be ignored. Well I don't know about you but I am glad that not all peoples adhere to this odd philosophy. On the other hand it is VERY interesting that you (atheists) want to indite those who believe in the miracle of creation when all those who believe in evolution (macro) also believe in miracles.</p> <p>John Barrow and Frank Tipler in their book “The Anthropic Cosmological Principle” list 10 steps in the course of human evolution. Each of which is so improbable that before it would occur the Sun would have ceased to be a main sequence star and incinerated the earth. And they calculate the probability of the evolution of the human genome to be somewhere between 4 to the -180th power to the 110,000 power and 4 to the -360th power to the 110,000 power. So if evolution (macro) did occur on this planet it was literally a miracle and therefore evidence for the existence of God.</p> So what you are saying is that having knowledge is arrogant. And that studying and finding the irrefutable truth claims of the Bible should just be ignored. Well I don’t know about you but I am glad that not all peoples adhere to this odd philosophy. On the other hand it is VERY interesting that you (atheists) want to indite those who believe in the miracle of creation when all those who believe in evolution (macro) also believe in miracles.

John Barrow and Frank Tipler in their book “The Anthropic Cosmological Principle” list 10 steps in the course of human evolution. Each of which is so improbable that before it would occur the Sun would have ceased to be a main sequence star and incinerated the earth. And they calculate the probability of the evolution of the human genome to be somewhere between 4 to the -180th power to the 110,000 power and 4 to the -360th power to the 110,000 power. So if evolution (macro) did occur on this planet it was literally a miracle and therefore evidence for the existence of God.

]]> By: J B Bell http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-257337 J B Bell Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:57:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-257337 <p>Mutation is random. Selection is absolutely not random.</p> Mutation is random. Selection is absolutely not random.

]]> By: Ty http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-257335 Ty Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:37:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-257335 <p>natural selection is random</p> natural selection is random

]]> By: Jeffrey Black http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-254851 Jeffrey Black Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:36:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-254851 <p>So you don't believe in any gods, but you don't believe there are no gods? If so, guess what, you're an atheist.</p> So you don’t believe in any gods, but you don’t believe there are no gods? If so, guess what, you’re an atheist.

]]> By: Jeffrey Black http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-2#comment-254850 Jeffrey Black Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:35:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-254850 <p>No, Agnosticism is separate from atheism. Agnosticism/gosticism deals with what you know or claim to know. Atheism/theism deals with what you believe. Most atheists (myself included) are agnostics. Most atheists admit they might be wrong, and a god might exist. You don't get that from most theists, they all "know" they are right, even though they have no evidence on their side. Also, I know I am right God (as defined by the Bible) does not exist, as he is an impossible being. He must be jealous, while never being jealous.</p> No, Agnosticism is separate from atheism. Agnosticism/gosticism deals with what you know or claim to know. Atheism/theism deals with what you believe. Most atheists (myself included) are agnostics. Most atheists admit they might be wrong, and a god might exist. You don’t get that from most theists, they all “know” they are right, even though they have no evidence on their side. Also, I know I am right God (as defined by the Bible) does not exist, as he is an impossible being. He must be jealous, while never being jealous.

]]> By: Reroko http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-2#comment-245023 Reroko Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:53:47 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-245023 <p>What makes atheists arrogant is that they absolutely know they're right. If they didn't, they'd be agnostic ~ but they're far too caught up "disproving" religion to admit that.</p> What makes atheists arrogant is that they absolutely know they're right. If they didn't, they'd be agnostic ~ but they're far too caught up “disproving” religion to admit that.

]]> By: Thiago http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-2#comment-244396 Thiago Thu, 20 May 2010 11:48:09 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-244396 <p>Holy cr**. Have you just told what that person is or believes by just reading a two line comment? You're like the best analyst ever. Kudos to you, pal!</p> Holy cr**. Have you just told what that person is or believes by just reading a two line comment? You're like the best analyst ever. Kudos to you, pal!

]]> By: Thiago http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-2#comment-244226 Thiago Thu, 20 May 2010 06:48:09 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-244226 <p>Holy cr**. Have you just told what that person is or believes by just reading a two line comment? You're like the best analyst ever. Kudos to you, pal!</p> Holy cr**. Have you just told what that person is or believes by just reading a two line comment? You're like the best analyst ever. Kudos to you, pal!

]]> By: LSD http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-2#comment-244225 LSD Thu, 20 May 2010 00:54:25 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-244225 <p>Way to be Exhibit A for the atheist side.</p> Way to be Exhibit A for the atheist side.

]]> By: CHB http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-2#comment-244224 CHB Thu, 20 May 2010 00:21:40 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-244224 <p>You mean you're a moron who doesn't know that agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive, and that you are actually an agnostic atheist, because you don't claim belief in any said particular faith?<br><br>Keep on chuggin.</p> You mean you're a moron who doesn't know that agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive, and that you are actually an agnostic atheist, because you don't claim belief in any said particular faith?

Keep on chuggin.

]]> By: CharlieChaplin2 http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-244223 CharlieChaplin2 Thu, 20 May 2010 00:11:20 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-244223 <p>Awesome sauce, but I would also include the assumption that a believer knows the gender of the "Creator" or that such an all powerful being would even have a gender.</p> Awesome sauce, but I would also include the assumption that a believer knows the gender of the “Creator” or that such an all powerful being would even have a gender.

]]> By: Derek http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-244221 Derek Wed, 19 May 2010 23:15:21 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-244221 <p>@ Richard<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter</a><br><br>So where's this anti-god we're supposed to be worshiping now?</p> @ Richard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter

So where's this anti-god we're supposed to be worshiping now?

]]> By: Jane Stenson http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-244219 Jane Stenson Wed, 19 May 2010 23:00:05 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-244219 <p>I think there's some elements of arrogance to both sides.<br><br>I'm more agnostic (traditional definition) than anything else though</p> I think there's some elements of arrogance to both sides.

I'm more agnostic (traditional definition) than anything else though

]]> By: Lynn http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-241937 Lynn Thu, 14 May 2009 05:25:03 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-241937 <p>If you assume that you're more intelligent or more evolved than the rest of the "brainwashed sheep," then yes.</p> If you assume that you're more intelligent or more evolved than the rest of the “brainwashed sheep,” then yes.

]]> By: Lynn http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-241660 Lynn Thu, 14 May 2009 01:25:03 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-241660 <p>If you assume that you're more intelligent or more evolved than the rest of the "brainwashed sheep," then yes.</p> If you assume that you're more intelligent or more evolved than the rest of the “brainwashed sheep,” then yes.

]]> By: Hi Mr.Meissler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-241615 Hi Mr.Meissler Wed, 06 May 2009 00:21:51 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-241615 <p>So if a bunch of guys at a mental health center start believing that a meteor will hit the earth in five days, would that be considered this "religion" you speak of?</p> So if a bunch of guys at a mental health center start believing that a meteor will hit the earth in five days, would that be considered this “religion” you speak of?

]]> By: Hi Mr.Meissler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-241614 Hi Mr.Meissler Wed, 06 May 2009 00:19:46 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-241614 <p>i'm offended that so many people can take a side to something that can't possibly be proven by humankind, let alone understood</p> i'm offended that so many people can take a side to something that can't possibly be proven by humankind, let alone understood

]]> By: Hi Mr.Meissler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-241613 Hi Mr.Meissler Wed, 06 May 2009 00:17:54 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-241613 <p>you spelled "zealots" wrong.</p> you spelled “zealots” wrong.

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