Comments on: The Best Retort for the “Atheists Are Arrogant” Argument http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument grep understanding Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:30:03 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Lynn http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-241937 Lynn Thu, 14 May 2009 05:25:03 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-241937 <p>If you assume that you're more intelligent or more evolved than the rest of the "brainwashed sheep," then yes.</p> If you assume that you're more intelligent or more evolved than the rest of the “brainwashed sheep,” then yes.

]]> By: Lynn http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-241660 Lynn Thu, 14 May 2009 01:25:03 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-241660 <p>If you assume that you're more intelligent or more evolved than the rest of the "brainwashed sheep," then yes.</p> If you assume that you're more intelligent or more evolved than the rest of the “brainwashed sheep,” then yes.

]]> By: Hi Mr.Meissler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-241615 Hi Mr.Meissler Wed, 06 May 2009 00:21:51 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-241615 <p>So if a bunch of guys at a mental health center start believing that a meteor will hit the earth in five days, would that be considered this "religion" you speak of?</p> So if a bunch of guys at a mental health center start believing that a meteor will hit the earth in five days, would that be considered this “religion” you speak of?

]]> By: Hi Mr.Meissler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-241614 Hi Mr.Meissler Wed, 06 May 2009 00:19:46 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-241614 <p>i'm offended that so many people can take a side to something that can't possibly be proven by humankind, let alone understood</p> i'm offended that so many people can take a side to something that can't possibly be proven by humankind, let alone understood

]]> By: Hi Mr.Meissler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-241613 Hi Mr.Meissler Wed, 06 May 2009 00:17:54 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-241613 <p>you spelled "zealots" wrong.</p> you spelled “zealots” wrong.

]]> By: Hi Mr.Meissler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-241612 Hi Mr.Meissler Wed, 06 May 2009 00:16:39 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-241612 <p>its called a time paradox.</p> its called a time paradox.

]]> By: Hi Mr.Meissler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-241611 Hi Mr.Meissler Wed, 06 May 2009 00:15:59 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-241611 <p>Creatism and existencialism blow my mind. How can something that has in itslf be created create? On the contrary, how can this universe suddenly exist without any creation? This leads me to believe that nothing exists.</p> Creatism and existencialism blow my mind. How can something that has in itslf be created create? On the contrary, how can this universe suddenly exist without any creation? This leads me to believe that nothing exists.

]]> By: Hi Mr.Meissler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-241610 Hi Mr.Meissler Wed, 06 May 2009 00:10:40 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-241610 <p>I think that strongly believing in one philosiphy is pointless, that religion may or may not be true, and that nothing at all is certain. This leads me to be agnostic/Christian. Yes, I know I sound like an idiot.</p> I think that strongly believing in one philosiphy is pointless, that religion may or may not be true, and that nothing at all is certain. This leads me to be agnostic/Christian. Yes, I know I sound like an idiot.

]]> By: Richard Corsale http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-240316 Richard Corsale Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:39:38 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-240316 <p>So if there were a regular meeting of Atheists, a group that got together to discuss "with absolute certainty" that the vast and mostly misunderstood universe, all of it's various dimensions and unknown inhabitants could have possibly been the result of some freaky deaky lab experiment that takes place 2 billion years from now.. or whatever ... Would that be a congregation? If you met in the same building every time. What would you call that place?</p> So if there were a regular meeting of Atheists, a group that got together to discuss “with absolute certainty” that the vast and mostly misunderstood universe, all of it's various dimensions and unknown inhabitants could have possibly been the result of some freaky deaky lab experiment that takes place 2 billion years from now.. or whatever … Would that be a congregation? If you met in the same building every time. What would you call that place?

]]> By: Richard Corsale http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-222965 Richard Corsale Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:16:44 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-222965 <p>Iv had this conversation once or 2ice... Its not that atheists think their arrogant, its that the have a deep rooted belief in ignorance, that they need to defend. Just like every other religion, in order to have an answer to something that is far beyond the cutting edge of understanding. </p> <p>Atheism is another ism.. Isms and anitys = the acceptance of ignorance. As ironic as it sounds they hey have staunch devotion to their God, which is an anti-God which is just as real as anti-matter. Still, I contend that all religious zelots have denied themselves one of the most fundamental rights of humanity; the ability to imagine and then pursue factual answers. Yeah I suppose its arrogant to believe you have the answer to something that you cant possibly understand... so in that respect..</p> Iv had this conversation once or 2ice… Its not that atheists think their arrogant, its that the have a deep rooted belief in ignorance, that they need to defend. Just like every other religion, in order to have an answer to something that is far beyond the cutting edge of understanding.

Atheism is another ism.. Isms and anitys = the acceptance of ignorance. As ironic as it sounds they hey have staunch devotion to their God, which is an anti-God which is just as real as anti-matter. Still, I contend that all religious zelots have denied themselves one of the most fundamental rights of humanity; the ability to imagine and then pursue factual answers. Yeah I suppose its arrogant to believe you have the answer to something that you cant possibly understand… so in that respect..

]]> By: Andy http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-209489 Andy Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:37:29 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-209489 <p>When a person suffers a delusion, it's called insanity. When a group suffers the same delusion, it becomes a Religion. </p> <p>It continually amuses me to see how all theists seem so offended by us Atheists. It also interests me to see how you take it so personally that there is a group out there that does not believe in your god, or indeed any god at all. Does anybody understand that the monotheistic religions are just a god for a few away from being Atheists?</p> When a person suffers a delusion, it’s called insanity. When a group suffers the same delusion, it becomes a Religion.

It continually amuses me to see how all theists seem so offended by us Atheists. It also interests me to see how you take it so personally that there is a group out there that does not believe in your god, or indeed any god at all. Does anybody understand that the monotheistic religions are just a god for a few away from being Atheists?

]]> By: Quiet agnostic http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-201485 Quiet agnostic Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:57:58 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-201485 <p>God phoned me last night and told me he doesn't exist. I'm not one to argue...</p> God phoned me last night and told me he doesn’t exist. I’m not one to argue…

]]> By: LoudPatriot http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-200966 LoudPatriot Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:29:39 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-200966 <p>I'm not sure where I read it (or something close):</p> <p>"A cult is just religion without any political power."</p> <p>And when the fundy's come a knockin' on my door I ask them if they believe in any other gods. when they say no I then say we are really not to much different since just believe in one less god than you. (I think Dawkins has a quote that inspired this).</p> I’m not sure where I read it (or something close):

“A cult is just religion without any political power.”

And when the fundy’s come a knockin’ on my door I ask them if they believe in any other gods. when they say no I then say we are really not to much different since just believe in one less god than you. (I think Dawkins has a quote that inspired this).

]]> By: James http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-188477 James Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:27:46 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-188477 <p>Works for me!</p> Works for me!

]]> By: Atheists are so arrogant! « Suddenly Atheist http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-181219 Atheists are so arrogant! « Suddenly Atheist Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:07:14 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-181219 <p>[...] 27, 2008 at 12:07 pm (Religion, atheism) (atheism, christianity, god, humor, rick warren) Sweet, simple, and to the point. Let me get this straight. You think the Creator of the Universe cares personally about your life, [...]</p> [...] 27, 2008 at 12:07 pm (Religion, atheism) (atheism, christianity, god, humor, rick warren) Sweet, simple, and to the point. Let me get this straight. You think the Creator of the Universe cares personally about your life, [...]

]]> By: Jim Gardner http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-180343 Jim Gardner Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:26:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-180343 <p>“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” - Bertrand Russell</p> “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” – Bertrand Russell

]]> By: Carl M http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-180286 Carl M Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:31:34 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-180286 <p>@Dave ... :)</p> <p>.. but I still don't see that great a number of people who both (1) believe that they know the mind of God and (2) assert that atheists are arrogant.</p> <p>... Perhaps I could have kept it that simply stated the first time. :)</p> @Dave … :)

.. but I still don’t see that great a number of people who both (1) believe that they know the mind of God and (2) assert that atheists are arrogant.

… Perhaps I could have kept it that simply stated the first time. :)

]]> By: Karl Jr http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-180171 Karl Jr Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:36:04 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-180171 <p>Atheist Group hug…and a snack, and off to bed...none the wiser...but perhaps more contently ignorant...aww</p> Atheist Group hug…and a snack, and off to bed…none the wiser…but perhaps more contently ignorant…aww

]]> By: Karl Jr http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-180170 Karl Jr Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:34:31 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-180170 <p>Atheist Group hug...and a snack, and off to bed.</p> Atheist Group hug…and a snack, and off to bed.

]]> By: Silveira Neto http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-180168 Silveira Neto Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:15:05 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-180168 <p>Very good one, I'll keep this.</p> Very good one, I’ll keep this.

]]> By: nonch http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-180149 nonch Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:16:51 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-180149 <p>There is no reason that all the things should turn around the humanity and most probably we are not the creatures to send books to show care. Humanity is egoist and think that we are like a sun in the center of all universe and everything was made for us. Well, I am not an atheist or theist but still atheists have stronger arguments than theists because of over thinking, reading and breaking the rules of prejudice. It makes them more peaceful as well. Anyway, let's repeat together. In Ferrero Nutella we trust and consume. Amen :)</p> There is no reason that all the things should turn around the humanity and most probably we are not the creatures to send books to show care. Humanity is egoist and think that we are like a sun in the center of all universe and everything was made for us. Well, I am not an atheist or theist but still atheists have stronger arguments than theists because of over thinking, reading and breaking the rules of prejudice. It makes them more peaceful as well. Anyway, let’s repeat together. In Ferrero Nutella we trust and consume. Amen :)

]]> By: Rob http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-180140 Rob Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:56:37 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-180140 <p>I would add to this that Christians are the ones who believe that we were created in God's own image and have a divine right to mastery over all other creatures.</p> I would add to this that Christians are the ones who believe that we were created in God’s own image and have a divine right to mastery over all other creatures.

]]> By: modest motherfucker http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-180124 modest motherfucker Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:06:06 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-180124 <p>Generally speaking religious extremists sound like 'arrogant motherfucker' above* so I'll assume he is one, otherwise he would be an embarrassment to us atheists =/</p> Generally speaking religious extremists sound like ‘arrogant motherfucker’ above* so I’ll assume he is one, otherwise he would be an embarrassment to us atheists =/

]]> By: arrogant motherfucker http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-180114 arrogant motherfucker Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:59:13 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-180114 <blockquote> <p>the “Atheists Are Arrogant” Argument</p> </blockquote> <p>the counter argument is "theists are asskissers" ... cos after all, what else would an asskisser think of a asskicker.</p> <p>you've chosen to be servile, you got beaten like a dog, and your will cracked, and now you resent all those who didn't collapse under the intimidation... too fucking bad, grow a backbone and rise off your knees, but don't tell me i'm arrogant, cos compared to you a jelly fish is made of sterner stuff.</p> <p>you kiss jesus' ass, but jesus can kiss my ass... http://www.ijigg.com/songs/V2BCAAPD</p>

the “Atheists Are Arrogant” Argument

the counter argument is “theists are asskissers” … cos after all, what else would an asskisser think of a asskicker.

you’ve chosen to be servile, you got beaten like a dog, and your will cracked, and now you resent all those who didn’t collapse under the intimidation… too fucking bad, grow a backbone and rise off your knees, but don’t tell me i’m arrogant, cos compared to you a jelly fish is made of sterner stuff.

you kiss jesus’ ass, but jesus can kiss my ass… http://www.ijigg.com/songs/V2BCAAPD

]]> By: J Reeve http://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument/comment-page-1#comment-180101 J Reeve Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:59:24 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/the-best-retort-for-the-atheists-are-arrogant-argument#comment-180101 <p>Good response. I would take out the reference to randomness, though, because theists latch onto that sort of thing--they think atheists believe biological diversity etc to be a product of pure random chance, which as Dawkins likes to point out, is a grave misunderstanding of natural selection, which is anything but random.</p> Good response. I would take out the reference to randomness, though, because theists latch onto that sort of thing–they think atheists believe biological diversity etc to be a product of pure random chance, which as Dawkins likes to point out, is a grave misunderstanding of natural selection, which is anything but random.

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