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	<title>Comments on: TED: The Formula for Changing Math Education</title>
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		<title>By: cooperati</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ted-the-formula-for-changing-math-education/comment-page-1#comment-242918</link>
		<dc:creator>cooperati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agreed. Though I&#039;m not so sure that probability and statistics is so underscored in our education system. I picked them up as a matter of my psychology major, and continued them as if I were going to include them in a minor. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Certain concepts that I have do seem to go over the head of others as a result, at least in conversation. Standard deviation, amongst others, is one that people who haven&#039;t taken the courses understand differently than those who have. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Calculus is a nice trophy for those outside of certain sciences and engineering. The core concepts for formula and formulaic derivatives are introduced in many trigonometry classes, which are in some schools called pre-calculus, and from there calculus is a tieing up of advanced algebra and high level geometry, which, as the presenter noted, isn&#039;t applicable in even a weekly routine for most graduates with calculus courses. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hopefully there will be more of a subset of people who understand at least the basics of statistics, as it would make information correlation of events easier to digest. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In oft had daydreams, I&#039;ve imagined news sources that flashed continuously relevant data across the bottom, and sides, in different colors. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-=T=-&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. Though I&#39;m not so sure that probability and statistics is so underscored in our education system. I picked them up as a matter of my psychology major, and continued them as if I were going to include them in a minor. <br /><br />Certain concepts that I have do seem to go over the head of others as a result, at least in conversation. Standard deviation, amongst others, is one that people who haven&#39;t taken the courses understand differently than those who have. <br /><br />Calculus is a nice trophy for those outside of certain sciences and engineering. The core concepts for formula and formulaic derivatives are introduced in many trigonometry classes, which are in some schools called pre-calculus, and from there calculus is a tieing up of advanced algebra and high level geometry, which, as the presenter noted, isn&#39;t applicable in even a weekly routine for most graduates with calculus courses. <br /><br />Hopefully there will be more of a subset of people who understand at least the basics of statistics, as it would make information correlation of events easier to digest. <br /><br />In oft had daydreams, I&#39;ve imagined news sources that flashed continuously relevant data across the bottom, and sides, in different colors. <br /><br />-=T=-</p>
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		<title>By: CarlM</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarlM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This idea already has wide acceptance.  Indeed, it has been some time since students other than those he mentions have been widely expected to learn calculus.  The problem is that probability and statistics have not been widely been REQUIRED as a replacement at the college lelvel.  Many (most?) states do have at least an element of probability and statistics now in the high school curriculum.  (I&#039;m not sure that it has yet been integrated into the curriculum in a meaningful way.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This idea already has wide acceptance.  Indeed, it has been some time since students other than those he mentions have been widely expected to learn calculus.  The problem is that probability and statistics have not been widely been REQUIRED as a replacement at the college lelvel.  Many (most?) states do have at least an element of probability and statistics now in the high school curriculum.  (I&#39;m not sure that it has yet been integrated into the curriculum in a meaningful way.)</p>
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