Sorry Ron, I’m Voting for Obama

By Daniel Miessler on March 4th, 2008: Tagged as Politics
  • bejo

    I agree totally. i am looking at the Ron Paul 2008 sign in my yard and feel like a traitor. Oh well. I have seen them both speak. I have read extensively on both and was telling everyone it was either Obama or Paul as all the other candidates were just more of the same. Hillary scares me and Mcain is just friggin nuts.

    Ok back to reading your “10 questions to ask…”. ha ha, what port does icmp use…

  • bejo

    I agree totally. i am looking at the Ron Paul 2008 sign in my yard and feel like a traitor. Oh well. I have seen them both speak. I have read extensively on both and was telling everyone it was either Obama or Paul as all the other candidates were just more of the same. Hillary scares me and Mcain is just friggin nuts.

    Ok back to reading your “10 questions to ask…”. ha ha, what port does icmp use…

  • http://maxolasersquad.com/ Maxo

    When primary time came around to Florida I wasn’t sure what to do. I’ve never voted in a primary for many different reasons. Primarily because I’ve never been interested in any of the candidates on any side of the aisle. This year it seemed clear that I would be voting for Obama. I had never been registered a Democrat, nor had I ever been interested in registering as a Democrat, but I thought it was a just cause. Well, then our lovely government decided to fuck everything up, and voting for a Democrat was no longer going to count. So then I thought I would take an even bigger leap and register Republican to vote for Ron Paul. Then I missed the cut-off date and didn’t reregister at all, so I just didn’t get to vote. That’s my fault though. I think both bring a lot of exciting ideas to the table. While both have plenty that I disagree with, there is plenty that I do agree with.

  • http://maxolasersquad.com/ Maxo

    When primary time came around to Florida I wasn’t sure what to do. I’ve never voted in a primary for many different reasons. Primarily because I’ve never been interested in any of the candidates on any side of the aisle. This year it seemed clear that I would be voting for Obama. I had never been registered a Democrat, nor had I ever been interested in registering as a Democrat, but I thought it was a just cause. Well, then our lovely government decided to fuck everything up, and voting for a Democrat was no longer going to count. So then I thought I would take an even bigger leap and register Republican to vote for Ron Paul. Then I missed the cut-off date and didn’t reregister at all, so I just didn’t get to vote. That’s my fault though. I think both bring a lot of exciting ideas to the table. While both have plenty that I disagree with, there is plenty that I do agree with.

  • ncloud

    Obama supports a controlled economy, wealth re-distribution, and big spending for his own pet causes. This will not be good for our country. The alternative candidates are no better. The reason I voted for Ron Paul in the Missouri primary was because I believe that his solutions are first Constitutional, and second, vital to the long-term health of America. I cannot vote for Obama because the few things on which I agree with his stated positions are eclipsed by the quantity of positions on which I disagree. Change is not enough — it must be the right kind of change.

  • ncloud

    Obama supports a controlled economy, wealth re-distribution, and big spending for his own pet causes. This will not be good for our country. The alternative candidates are no better. The reason I voted for Ron Paul in the Missouri primary was because I believe that his solutions are first Constitutional, and second, vital to the long-term health of America. I cannot vote for Obama because the few things on which I agree with his stated positions are eclipsed by the quantity of positions on which I disagree. Change is not enough — it must be the right kind of change.

  • http://kenswain.com/ Ken

    This is an issue I am torn on as well. I can not support socialized anything!! This will only help destroy our country. I also realize that if Paul won it he would be held in a stale mate for his first two years.

  • http://slashback.org/ Tim F.

    I’ve pretty much come to the same conclusion, and I’ve even heard my dad (a staunch republican) say that he no longer supports any of the republican nominee hopefuls.

    I think my parents may vote democrat for the first time in decades — that is, unless Hillary gets the nomination.

    It really sucks when an election comes down to voting for the lesser of the two (or more) evils instead of voting for who you really want to see in office. I was positively sick when I went to the polls 4 years ago all ready to close my eyes and poke the screen, but I was saved at the last minute by a Libertarian candidate that I’d never heard of before.

    A wasted vote? Well, yeah, but I couldn’t bring myself to vote for either of the other two fuckwads.

    I still don’t think Obama is an ideal candidate, but he’s got more going for him than any of the other hopefuls.

    Le sigh… maybe there will be another nameless (or not-so-nameless — fingers crossed) Libertarian candidate with no chance on the ballet this year, but if there isn’t I’ll settle for Obama.

  • http://kenswain.com Ken

    This is an issue I am torn on as well. I can not support socialized anything!! This will only help destroy our country. I also realize that if Paul won it he would be held in a stale mate for his first two years.

  • http://slashback.org/ Tim F.

    I’ve pretty much come to the same conclusion, and I’ve even heard my dad (a staunch republican) say that he no longer supports any of the republican nominee hopefuls.

    I think my parents may vote democrat for the first time in decades — that is, unless Hillary gets the nomination.

    It really sucks when an election comes down to voting for the lesser of the two (or more) evils instead of voting for who you really want to see in office. I was positively sick when I went to the polls 4 years ago all ready to close my eyes and poke the screen, but I was saved at the last minute by a Libertarian candidate that I’d never heard of before.

    A wasted vote? Well, yeah, but I couldn’t bring myself to vote for either of the other two fuckwads.

    I still don’t think Obama is an ideal candidate, but he’s got more going for him than any of the other hopefuls.

    Le sigh… maybe there will be another nameless (or not-so-nameless — fingers crossed) Libertarian candidate with no chance on the ballet this year, but if there isn’t I’ll settle for Obama.

  • Carl M

    @Ken: “I can not support socialized anything!! This will only help destroy our country.”

    So, presumably all roads paid for by a gas tax or tolls. All other infrastructure paid for ONLY by those who use it and not by those who benefit only indirectly.

  • Carl M

    @Ken: “I can not support socialized anything!! This will only help destroy our country.”

    So, presumably all roads paid for by a gas tax or tolls. All other infrastructure paid for ONLY by those who use it and not by those who benefit only indirectly.

  • dale

    Well it’s not like Paul stood a chance anyway. Of course, while Obama would be happy for your vote, I don’t think he would want the media to get the story that Ron Paul supporters are going over to him.

  • dale

    Well it’s not like Paul stood a chance anyway. Of course, while Obama would be happy for your vote, I don’t think he would want the media to get the story that Ron Paul supporters are going over to him.

  • True American Patriot

    Wow, these folks that have supported Ron Paul that now say they are supporting Obama because he isn’t ‘more of the same’?!? This couldn’t be further from the truth. If you supported Ron Paul at any point in time and do not write his name in during the election, you are in fact a traitor!

    Look at who is advising Obama! Zbigniew Brzezinski of all people! Keep in mind that Zbig chose Obama, it wasn’t the other way around!

    Voting for Obama is voting for MORE OF THE SAME! Saying otherwise just shows that you haven’t done your homework.

    I’m writing in Ron Paul’s name for this election and every election thereafter. Unless we get another candidate who mirrors Paul’s ideals and political philosophy. Honestly, how could you vote for any other candidate besides Ron Paul?!?

  • True American Patriot

    Wow, these folks that have supported Ron Paul that now say they are supporting Obama because he isn’t ‘more of the same’?!? This couldn’t be further from the truth. If you supported Ron Paul at any point in time and do not write his name in during the election, you are in fact a traitor!

    Look at who is advising Obama! Zbigniew Brzezinski of all people! Keep in mind that Zbig chose Obama, it wasn’t the other way around!

    Voting for Obama is voting for MORE OF THE SAME! Saying otherwise just shows that you haven’t done your homework.

    I’m writing in Ron Paul’s name for this election and every election thereafter. Unless we get another candidate who mirrors Paul’s ideals and political philosophy. Honestly, how could you vote for any other candidate besides Ron Paul?!?

  • Greg

    Obama has voted to renew the unconstitutional PATRIOT ACT. He has voted to continue the illegal and immoral War in Iraq. Nothing will “change”. We will still have the same bad policies that are driving this nation into the ground.

  • Greg

    Obama has voted to renew the unconstitutional PATRIOT ACT. He has voted to continue the illegal and immoral War in Iraq. Nothing will “change”. We will still have the same bad policies that are driving this nation into the ground.

  • John Galt

    A true supporter of Paul could never vote for Obama. He is antithetical to what Libertarians and Ron Paul stand for. Why would anyone ever make that leap. That is as if I would to say…”Well…since it doesn’t look like “freedom” is going to prevail, I might as well support “slavery” – Obama = Slavery. If one was a “supporter” of Paul and is now a supporter of Obama then good riddance. You are either a producer or a looter. You make the choice.

  • John Galt

    A true supporter of Paul could never vote for Obama. He is antithetical to what Libertarians and Ron Paul stand for. Why would anyone ever make that leap. That is as if I would to say…”Well…since it doesn’t look like “freedom” is going to prevail, I might as well support “slavery” – Obama = Slavery. If one was a “supporter” of Paul and is now a supporter of Obama then good riddance. You are either a producer or a looter. You make the choice.

  • http://dmiessler.com/ Daniel Miessler

    To all those who are saying one should never switch from Paul to Obama, my response is very clear. At this stage in our country’s evolution I’m voting for people, not policies.

    I am not claiming this is an ideal way to go about things – only that it’s currently the best way. Obama, for example, I believe can do good things for this country even if he has policies that I don’t agree with. McCain and Clinton can not.

    So while Paul is my ideal candidate from a policy perspective, I actually do consider what would happen if someone were to be elected (gasp). Paul has almost no support outside of the intellectual elite in this country; he’s basically a progressive at this point. So him being in office is not ideal to me regardless of how ideal I feel his positions are.

    I could be being totally naive here, but I don’t think so. When someone is genuinely virtuous the policies really do matter less — especially when one of the major issues facing our country is that of how the world views us. That kind of thing is not a matter of policy, but rather one of personal character.

  • http://dmiessler.com Daniel Miessler

    To all those who are saying one should never switch from Paul to Obama, my response is very clear. At this stage in our country’s evolution I’m voting for people, not policies.

    I am not claiming this is an ideal way to go about things – only that it’s currently the best way. Obama, for example, I believe can do good things for this country even if he has policies that I don’t agree with. McCain and Clinton can not.

    So while Paul is my ideal candidate from a policy perspective, I actually do consider what would happen if someone were to be elected (gasp). Paul has almost no support outside of the intellectual elite in this country; he’s basically a progressive at this point. So him being in office is not ideal to me regardless of how ideal I feel his positions are.

    I could be being totally naive here, but I don’t think so. When someone is genuinely virtuous the policies really do matter less — especially when one of the major issues facing our country is that of how the world views us. That kind of thing is not a matter of policy, but rather one of personal character.

  • rightcoast

    “I agree totally. i am looking at the Ron Paul 2008 sign in my yard and feel like a traitor.”

    That’s your conscience telling you what you already know.

  • rightcoast

    “I agree totally. i am looking at the Ron Paul 2008 sign in my yard and feel like a traitor.”

    That’s your conscience telling you what you already know.


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