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	<title>Comments on: Say Goodbye to U.S. Particle Physics</title>
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		<title>By: Carl M</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-148203</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not sure if this link will work .. or if you are given a heads up by the software when someone posts to an old post.  Anyway, Fermilab got a large donation from an individual who apparently cares about US science.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784&lt;em&gt;3-9954648-7.html?part=rss&amp;subj=news&amp;tag=2547-1&lt;/em&gt;3-0-5&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if this link will work .. or if you are given a heads up by the software when someone posts to an old post.  Anyway, Fermilab got a large donation from an individual who apparently cares about US science.</p>

<p><a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784" rel="nofollow">http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784</a><em>3-9954648-7.html?part=rss&amp;subj=news&amp;tag=2547-1</em>3-0-5</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Carl M</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-250461</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not sure if this link will work .. or if you are given a heads up by the software when someone posts to an old post.  Anyway, Fermilab got a large donation from an individual who apparently cares about US science.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784&lt;em&gt;3-9954648-7.html?part=rss&amp;subj=news&amp;tag=2547-1&lt;/em&gt;3-0-5&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if this link will work .. or if you are given a heads up by the software when someone posts to an old post.  Anyway, Fermilab got a large donation from an individual who apparently cares about US science.</p>

<p><a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784" rel="nofollow">http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784</a><em>3-9954648-7.html?part=rss&amp;subj=news&amp;tag=2547-1</em>3-0-5</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Karl Olson</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-124527</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I did basic research for many years, and I couldn&#039;t find much of a job either.  Sort of used and then dumped...american style..&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even though I was doing reserach in the biological and biochemical sciences, I FOUGHT for particle physics funding, the most basic of all sciences.  And frankly I believe an attack on any of the sciences, medical, biological, chemical OR physical is an attack on all the others, because frankly, today is an attack on physics, tomorrow chemistry and the day after biological...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I for one will NOT encourage young, intelligent students to go into scientific research, unless of course, they want a piece of shit of a life that I have had...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I want to be quoted on that one...simply unethical...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did basic research for many years, and I couldn&#8217;t find much of a job either.  Sort of used and then dumped&#8230;american style..</p>

<p>Even though I was doing reserach in the biological and biochemical sciences, I FOUGHT for particle physics funding, the most basic of all sciences.  And frankly I believe an attack on any of the sciences, medical, biological, chemical OR physical is an attack on all the others, because frankly, today is an attack on physics, tomorrow chemistry and the day after biological&#8230;</p>

<p>And I for one will NOT encourage young, intelligent students to go into scientific research, unless of course, they want a piece of shit of a life that I have had&#8230;</p>

<p>And I want to be quoted on that one&#8230;simply unethical&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Karl Olson</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-250460</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I did basic research for many years, and I couldn&#039;t find much of a job either.  Sort of used and then dumped...american style..&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even though I was doing reserach in the biological and biochemical sciences, I FOUGHT for particle physics funding, the most basic of all sciences.  And frankly I believe an attack on any of the sciences, medical, biological, chemical OR physical is an attack on all the others, because frankly, today is an attack on physics, tomorrow chemistry and the day after biological...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I for one will NOT encourage young, intelligent students to go into scientific research, unless of course, they want a piece of shit of a life that I have had...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I want to be quoted on that one...simply unethical...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did basic research for many years, and I couldn&#8217;t find much of a job either.  Sort of used and then dumped&#8230;american style..</p>

<p>Even though I was doing reserach in the biological and biochemical sciences, I FOUGHT for particle physics funding, the most basic of all sciences.  And frankly I believe an attack on any of the sciences, medical, biological, chemical OR physical is an attack on all the others, because frankly, today is an attack on physics, tomorrow chemistry and the day after biological&#8230;</p>

<p>And I for one will NOT encourage young, intelligent students to go into scientific research, unless of course, they want a piece of shit of a life that I have had&#8230;</p>

<p>And I want to be quoted on that one&#8230;simply unethical&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eamon</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-105434</link>
		<dc:creator>Eamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The problem with the Education Dept is how the money is being spent. Education is the foundation of any civilization and ours flat out is in ruins. My younger sister was never taught parts of speech. I&#039;ve had some great teachers but I was lucky. I&#039;ve seen some horrible teachers in schools lately, we should be recruiting teachers with competitive wages and getting people who actually majored in the subject that they teach.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@Saul
I was just talking to a friend yesterday about the world view of Americans. We just had some traveling students from Germany and Sweden stay with us and I am glad that got to see that we all don&#039;t eat McDonalds while watching football or Fox News all night.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the Education Dept is how the money is being spent. Education is the foundation of any civilization and ours flat out is in ruins. My younger sister was never taught parts of speech. I&#8217;ve had some great teachers but I was lucky. I&#8217;ve seen some horrible teachers in schools lately, we should be recruiting teachers with competitive wages and getting people who actually majored in the subject that they teach.</p>

<p>@Saul
I was just talking to a friend yesterday about the world view of Americans. We just had some traveling students from Germany and Sweden stay with us and I am glad that got to see that we all don&#8217;t eat McDonalds while watching football or Fox News all night.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eamon</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-250459</link>
		<dc:creator>Eamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The problem with the Education Dept is how the money is being spent. Education is the foundation of any civilization and ours flat out is in ruins. My younger sister was never taught parts of speech. I&#039;ve had some great teachers but I was lucky. I&#039;ve seen some horrible teachers in schools lately, we should be recruiting teachers with competitive wages and getting people who actually majored in the subject that they teach.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@Saul
I was just talking to a friend yesterday about the world view of Americans. We just had some traveling students from Germany and Sweden stay with us and I am glad that got to see that we all don&#039;t eat McDonalds while watching football or Fox News all night.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the Education Dept is how the money is being spent. Education is the foundation of any civilization and ours flat out is in ruins. My younger sister was never taught parts of speech. I&#8217;ve had some great teachers but I was lucky. I&#8217;ve seen some horrible teachers in schools lately, we should be recruiting teachers with competitive wages and getting people who actually majored in the subject that they teach.</p>

<p>@Saul
I was just talking to a friend yesterday about the world view of Americans. We just had some traveling students from Germany and Sweden stay with us and I am glad that got to see that we all don&#8217;t eat McDonalds while watching football or Fox News all night.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason Ormes</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-105332</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Ormes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well we just had an interesting meeting... seems we are going to have to cut 200 people and everyone else takes 2 days a month furlough.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well we just had an interesting meeting&#8230; seems we are going to have to cut 200 people and everyone else takes 2 days a month furlough.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason Ormes</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-250458</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Ormes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well we just had an interesting meeting... seems we are going to have to cut 200 people and everyone else takes 2 days a month furlough.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well we just had an interesting meeting&#8230; seems we are going to have to cut 200 people and everyone else takes 2 days a month furlough.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jack K</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-105264</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;DURBIN AND OBAMA DROPPED THE BALL&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The 2 Democratic senators from Illinois certainly fumbled
in not protecting the future of Fermilab and Particle
Physics in the US.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Durbin&#039;s excuse for dropping the ball --
&quot;...we were left with stark choices – reduce funding for 
high-end physics or cut money for veterans; reduce spending 
at Fermilab or eliminate funding for rural hospitals&quot;
is a total insult --there are 9 billion dollars (2% 
of the bill) of almost 10,000 earmarks (average of 
almost 20 for each of the 535 senators and representatives)
--and I&#039;m sure that very few has anything to do with veterans
or hospitals. He must think we are ignorant sheeps.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One would assume that this is an unintentional fumble by
these 2 ambitious and supposedly sharp senators
--but there will be some who think this is deliberate
--after all, Fermilab is not situated in heavily 
Democratic Chicago, but in heavily Republican DuPage 
and Kane county--and in recently departed former 
Republican House speaker Hastert&#039;s district. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, Particle Physics, the crown jewel of American&#039;s
Scientific dominance in the last 70 yars--responsible
for dozens of US Nobel prize winners, and such important
advances as the World-Wide-Web (though that invention
was developed at Fermilab&#039;s sister lab in Eurpoe, CERN),
might fade into the sunset from the US landscape.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DURBIN AND OBAMA DROPPED THE BALL</p>

<p>The 2 Democratic senators from Illinois certainly fumbled
in not protecting the future of Fermilab and Particle
Physics in the US.</p>

<p>Durbin&#8217;s excuse for dropping the ball &#8211;
&#8220;&#8230;we were left with stark choices – reduce funding for 
high-end physics or cut money for veterans; reduce spending 
at Fermilab or eliminate funding for rural hospitals&#8221;
is a total insult &#8211;there are 9 billion dollars (2% 
of the bill) of almost 10,000 earmarks (average of 
almost 20 for each of the 535 senators and representatives)
&#8211;and I&#8217;m sure that very few has anything to do with veterans
or hospitals. He must think we are ignorant sheeps.</p>

<p>One would assume that this is an unintentional fumble by
these 2 ambitious and supposedly sharp senators
&#8211;but there will be some who think this is deliberate
&#8211;after all, Fermilab is not situated in heavily 
Democratic Chicago, but in heavily Republican DuPage 
and Kane county&#8211;and in recently departed former 
Republican House speaker Hastert&#8217;s district. </p>

<p>So, Particle Physics, the crown jewel of American&#8217;s
Scientific dominance in the last 70 yars&#8211;responsible
for dozens of US Nobel prize winners, and such important
advances as the World-Wide-Web (though that invention
was developed at Fermilab&#8217;s sister lab in Eurpoe, CERN),
might fade into the sunset from the US landscape.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jack K</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-250457</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;DURBIN AND OBAMA DROPPED THE BALL&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The 2 Democratic senators from Illinois certainly fumbled
in not protecting the future of Fermilab and Particle
Physics in the US.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Durbin&#039;s excuse for dropping the ball --
&quot;...we were left with stark choices – reduce funding for 
high-end physics or cut money for veterans; reduce spending 
at Fermilab or eliminate funding for rural hospitals&quot;
is a total insult --there are 9 billion dollars (2% 
of the bill) of almost 10,000 earmarks (average of 
almost 20 for each of the 535 senators and representatives)
--and I&#039;m sure that very few has anything to do with veterans
or hospitals. He must think we are ignorant sheeps.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One would assume that this is an unintentional fumble by
these 2 ambitious and supposedly sharp senators
--but there will be some who think this is deliberate
--after all, Fermilab is not situated in heavily 
Democratic Chicago, but in heavily Republican DuPage 
and Kane county--and in recently departed former 
Republican House speaker Hastert&#039;s district. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, Particle Physics, the crown jewel of American&#039;s
Scientific dominance in the last 70 yars--responsible
for dozens of US Nobel prize winners, and such important
advances as the World-Wide-Web (though that invention
was developed at Fermilab&#039;s sister lab in Eurpoe, CERN),
might fade into the sunset from the US landscape.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DURBIN AND OBAMA DROPPED THE BALL</p>

<p>The 2 Democratic senators from Illinois certainly fumbled
in not protecting the future of Fermilab and Particle
Physics in the US.</p>

<p>Durbin&#8217;s excuse for dropping the ball &#8211;
&#8220;&#8230;we were left with stark choices – reduce funding for 
high-end physics or cut money for veterans; reduce spending 
at Fermilab or eliminate funding for rural hospitals&#8221;
is a total insult &#8211;there are 9 billion dollars (2% 
of the bill) of almost 10,000 earmarks (average of 
almost 20 for each of the 535 senators and representatives)
&#8211;and I&#8217;m sure that very few has anything to do with veterans
or hospitals. He must think we are ignorant sheeps.</p>

<p>One would assume that this is an unintentional fumble by
these 2 ambitious and supposedly sharp senators
&#8211;but there will be some who think this is deliberate
&#8211;after all, Fermilab is not situated in heavily 
Democratic Chicago, but in heavily Republican DuPage 
and Kane county&#8211;and in recently departed former 
Republican House speaker Hastert&#8217;s district. </p>

<p>So, Particle Physics, the crown jewel of American&#8217;s
Scientific dominance in the last 70 yars&#8211;responsible
for dozens of US Nobel prize winners, and such important
advances as the World-Wide-Web (though that invention
was developed at Fermilab&#8217;s sister lab in Eurpoe, CERN),
might fade into the sunset from the US landscape.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel Miessler</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-105177</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Tyler&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you cut a budget by 83% you can&#039;t end up with 83% of the initial value. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tyler</p>

<p>If you cut a budget by 83% you can&#8217;t end up with 83% of the initial value. :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel Miessler</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-250456</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Tyler&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you cut a budget by 83% you can&#039;t end up with 83% of the initial value. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tyler</p>

<p>If you cut a budget by 83% you can&#8217;t end up with 83% of the initial value. :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel Miessler</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-105176</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Michael&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Despite how messed up our department of education is, I think the choice to take from it vs. the war is an easy one. One of the few things  worse than an education bureaucracy (and there are only a very few) is an illegal war that makes the world hate us.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael</p>

<p>Despite how messed up our department of education is, I think the choice to take from it vs. the war is an easy one. One of the few things  worse than an education bureaucracy (and there are only a very few) is an illegal war that makes the world hate us.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel Miessler</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-250455</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Michael&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Despite how messed up our department of education is, I think the choice to take from it vs. the war is an easy one. One of the few things  worse than an education bureaucracy (and there are only a very few) is an illegal war that makes the world hate us.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael</p>

<p>Despite how messed up our department of education is, I think the choice to take from it vs. the war is an easy one. One of the few things  worse than an education bureaucracy (and there are only a very few) is an illegal war that makes the world hate us.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel Miessler</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-105175</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Carl&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No, I don&#039;t think the government should be that limited. I think there are functions that are best suited to be handled by a responsible, truly representative democratic republic system.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I don&#039;t know where the line is -- especially since the line changes according to how sophisticated the population is. In other words, if everyone were highly educated and highly moral, I&#039;d be a hardcore libertarian. But since they&#039;re not, I&#039;m not.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A completely private society with no centralized standards, in today&#039;s world, would create even more chaos and inequality than we have now -- despite that being a very high standard.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Carl</p>

<p>No, I don&#8217;t think the government should be that limited. I think there are functions that are best suited to be handled by a responsible, truly representative democratic republic system.</p>

<p>But I don&#8217;t know where the line is &#8212; especially since the line changes according to how sophisticated the population is. In other words, if everyone were highly educated and highly moral, I&#8217;d be a hardcore libertarian. But since they&#8217;re not, I&#8217;m not.</p>

<p>A completely private society with no centralized standards, in today&#8217;s world, would create even more chaos and inequality than we have now &#8212; despite that being a very high standard.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel Miessler</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-250454</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Carl&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No, I don&#039;t think the government should be that limited. I think there are functions that are best suited to be handled by a responsible, truly representative democratic republic system.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I don&#039;t know where the line is -- especially since the line changes according to how sophisticated the population is. In other words, if everyone were highly educated and highly moral, I&#039;d be a hardcore libertarian. But since they&#039;re not, I&#039;m not.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A completely private society with no centralized standards, in today&#039;s world, would create even more chaos and inequality than we have now -- despite that being a very high standard.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Carl</p>

<p>No, I don&#8217;t think the government should be that limited. I think there are functions that are best suited to be handled by a responsible, truly representative democratic republic system.</p>

<p>But I don&#8217;t know where the line is &#8212; especially since the line changes according to how sophisticated the population is. In other words, if everyone were highly educated and highly moral, I&#8217;d be a hardcore libertarian. But since they&#8217;re not, I&#8217;m not.</p>

<p>A completely private society with no centralized standards, in today&#8217;s world, would create even more chaos and inequality than we have now &#8212; despite that being a very high standard.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason Ormes</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-105168</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Ormes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;its not just the damage to existing programs that I fear the most, or even the fact that I might have to take an unpaid vacation. Its the loss of the brains and the impact this will have on future students of physics in this country.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its not just the damage to existing programs that I fear the most, or even the fact that I might have to take an unpaid vacation. Its the loss of the brains and the impact this will have on future students of physics in this country.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason Ormes</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-250453</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Ormes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;its not just the damage to existing programs that I fear the most, or even the fact that I might have to take an unpaid vacation. Its the loss of the brains and the impact this will have on future students of physics in this country.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its not just the damage to existing programs that I fear the most, or even the fact that I might have to take an unpaid vacation. Its the loss of the brains and the impact this will have on future students of physics in this country.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Michael R. Farnum</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-105136</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael R. Farnum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Daniel,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You can pull money from any number of bloated programs that you don&#039;t agree with.  Just because you don&#039;t like the war does not really make your point any more valid.  For instance, President Bush is requesting $56 billion for education in &#039;08.  The $372 mil is less than one percent of that.  I don&#039;t like the education department for the most part.  I think it is a failed program.  So I advocate taking money from the education program just as you advocate taking from the war.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Merry Christmas,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Michael&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>

<p>You can pull money from any number of bloated programs that you don&#8217;t agree with.  Just because you don&#8217;t like the war does not really make your point any more valid.  For instance, President Bush is requesting $56 billion for education in &#8217;08.  The $372 mil is less than one percent of that.  I don&#8217;t like the education department for the most part.  I think it is a failed program.  So I advocate taking money from the education program just as you advocate taking from the war.</p>

<p>Merry Christmas,</p>

<p>Michael</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Michael R. Farnum</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/say-goodbye-to-us-particle-physics/comment-page-1#comment-250452</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael R. Farnum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Daniel,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You can pull money from any number of bloated programs that you don&#039;t agree with.  Just because you don&#039;t like the war does not really make your point any more valid.  For instance, President Bush is requesting $56 billion for education in &#039;08.  The $372 mil is less than one percent of that.  I don&#039;t like the education department for the most part.  I think it is a failed program.  So I advocate taking money from the education program just as you advocate taking from the war.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Merry Christmas,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Michael&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>

<p>You can pull money from any number of bloated programs that you don&#8217;t agree with.  Just because you don&#8217;t like the war does not really make your point any more valid.  For instance, President Bush is requesting $56 billion for education in &#8217;08.  The $372 mil is less than one percent of that.  I don&#8217;t like the education department for the most part.  I think it is a failed program.  So I advocate taking money from the education program just as you advocate taking from the war.</p>

<p>Merry Christmas,</p>

<p>Michael</p>]]></content:encoded>
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