• Morticom
    Religion is basically people believing in the unbelievable and will probably be the last mental illness to be curd on this planet!
  • mmmm

    http://www.exodus2006.com/calculate.htm


    http://www.exodus2006.com/calculate.htm


    Sarah L Palin calculates to 666

  • The fact that there are enough idiots to even allow this woman to get a platform is the sad part.


    God, I would just die laughing if Buddha came back and started frying all the Christians for being bigoted arseholes. That would be the funniest.

  • Yeah, let s elect this genius as veep.

  • shane

    Damn it man, you had a great argument! Why ruin it starting with the condescending "really?" and end it all with "seriously, think before you post, grow a thicker skin and stfu. Comment by c'mon now shane" It is as if you knew I wasn't going to buy your argument so you end it with a personal jab to really convince me. It was probably my cue to move on to a new discussion, but I can't help myself.


    Pentecostals freak me the hell out even if she supposedly is only associated with Pentecostals. But the church she does go to says that the Bible is "inerrant" - http://www.newsweek.com/id/156679/page/2 and that really blows most of my arguments away right there. I would hope that doesn't mean that she believes the bible is word-for-word true, but I don't know. But back to your argument, "if The Rapture (read: apocalypse) is a good thing, then helping bring it about would not be considered a bad thing". I don't buy that logic. But more importantly, I don't get the point of bringing up the rapture at all. Do you really think it is possible for a VP (or even P) to be so brain-washed religious to believe she is on a mission from god to bring about the end of the world ... AND then actually go on and do it without anyone stopping her? This is just too ridiculous of a scenario. Other than the fact you don't KNOW how religious she is in real life, I can't think of any contradictions to your argument.


    Next, good point about my Republican brain. If only my feeble mind could see beyond black and white like Democrats can. I can see how one can infer absolutes from my heaven/consequences argument but it was meant to be generic. Regardless of what afterlife atheists may believe is possible, they inherently do not believe in one in which your future is decided based on a judgment of your actions back on earth. This belief in an afterlife, as silly as seems to both you and me, still forces a hefty a punishment to those christians to not do bad things. I would argue that starting a nuclear war would be a bad thing, but you would argue that a brainwashed Palin may think it is a good thing.


    I would like to see a poll of how many christians believe that a holy war is okay. I would also like to see a poll of how many atheists believe that a violent war against religion would be okay. I am sure the results wouldn't be entirely similar, but certainly not that far apart either.


    "she is a Creationist, period" I am glad you are so sure, but I am not. If you read that link again you should also note that Palin does not wish creationism to be TAUGHT in school, only that it be allowed to be discussed. As a libertarian, I like that. I think creationism is a dumb theory but I don't think it should be illegal to talk about it, even in a public school. "The Bible is great but the stories are anecdotes, not historical fact." I fully agree.


    Back to Palin. Of course, she should be scrutinized. But investigating, as I have also clearly done, is far different than repeating rumors you read from reddit. I am not sick of the scrutiny. I am sick one rumor after another (like the book banning and the he-said-she-saids).


    I am just as sick of the similar attacks on right wing sites that still think Obama is a muslim, muslim-lover, socialist, or whatever they come up with next. I much rather prefer arguments like yours if you had only been less of a dick about getting your point across. Just because the internet is anonymous doesn't mean we can't all be civil.

  • c'mon now shane

    @shane:




    I am pretty sure that she would be afraid of God’s wrath and I am pretty sure she would be “sent to hell” for doing something like that.




    really? if The Rapture (read: apocalypse) is a good thing, then helping bring it about would not be considered a bad thing. Remember, the Inquisition was believed to be the right thing to do - none of them thought they were going to be "sent to hell". thinking you are doing "God's Will" and the "reward" you get as a consequence don't need to be aligned.




    I have no problem with atheists but I don’t think your argument holds




    Atheists don't necessarily believe that there is no afterlife, just that reality is not governed by a sentient being (aka: God). if the "soul" is a form of energy or life, then you could potentially scientifically nurture it in a way as to prolong it's existence past organic 'life'. things aren't as black&white as you seem to imply but that is the depth of thinking that most strict republicans demonstrate. regardless your point doesn't make sense... so what if they don't think actions have consequence in the afterlife? they do believe in consequence in this life and death is bad to atheists. death is not necessarily bad for Christians if they believe that they are doing God's will. see the difference? a 'holy' war is ok to a Christian but not ok to an atheist.




    <p>Factcheck.org I think is one site we can all trust and it shows that she is not as bad as you make her out to be.




    it's a great site, but none of the points listed there contradict what Mr. Miessler posted. for example, she is a Creationist, period. The factcheck page only says that she wants it in schools alongside evolution, not replace it. Personally I don't believe magic should be taught in schools. there were no talking snakes in history, sorry to disappoint. People who believe genesis (and other magical stories from the Bible) as historical fact are not thinking clearly or are simply stupid - both are horrible attributes to have if you are the leader of a country. The Bible is great but the stories are anecdotes, not historical fact.


    also, she is running for VP or even possibly P, so scrutiny should be performed regardless of how sick you happen to be of it. seriously, think before you post, grow a thicker skin and stfu.

  • shane

    Here is another completely sourceless rumor. But since I can't prove she did NOT say those things, lets assume that she did for a minute...
    "And now we see the picture. It’s no wonder she wants to play rough with Iran and Russia—she doesn’t give a fuck what they do. If they get pissed off and start a nuclear war, no worries. Jesus will swoop in and save the believers anyway."
    Actually as a God-fearing Christian, I am pretty sure that she would be afraid of God's wrath and I am pretty sure she would be "sent to hell" for doing something like that.


    "I like atheists in charge of the nukes—or at least people with a somewhat secular view of the world. It’s important to think that THIS existence is important when wielding the influence and weapons that can bring it to an end." I am not so sure about that. I have no problem with atheists but I don't think your argument holds. Christians believe that what they do in this lifetime determines their future between everlasting joy in heaven or everlasting misery in hell. They believe that what they do here has profound implications. Atheists however believe that there are no consequences. When you die, you die and that is it. If I die by blowing up the world, I will have the same fate as the most generous and loving Pope.


    As a side note: check this out... as a former Catholic, I am completely shocked but I guess it is about damn time... http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/08...>

    Finally, I am getting pretty sick of the anti-Palin stuff here. Every time you bring up something against her, I look it up and find nothing supporting it besides opinions on blog sites. Factcheck.org I think is one site we can all trust and it shows that she is not as bad as you make her out to be. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming...>

  • Wotan

    Don't worry Stacey, you'll be refused entry to Valhalla in the afterlife for choosing the wrong religion !. Still, I'll think of you come Ragnarok . . . .

  • stacy's dad

    @stacey: "Yeah, Won’t you just be shocked when you find out she’s exactly correct, Only it will be too late when your standing at the throne of “God” ALL by yourself"


    what I'll be shocked about are all the other pious, religious people who belong to religions other than Palin's whose only crime was to be born in the wrong place/time - for example Muslims, Hindus, Buddists, or any non-christian.


    sorry no, God didn't do a magic act to create the grand canyon, Satan didn't plant fake dinosaur bones to throw us off track and God doesn't send souls to hell for not believing in a talking snake.


    honestly Stacey, do you really believe (or think it's even ok for others to believe) that the only reason we have animals on Earth today is because Noah put 2 of each on a boat? if so, please soak your head at your earliest convenience.


    thanks for your contribution!

  • jo-c

    I never considered it either, stacey. Thenk you for the contribution.

  • Good point, Stacey. I hadn't considered that. Thank you for the contribution.

  • Stacey

    Yeah,
    Won't you just be shocked when you find out she's exactly correct,
    Only it will be too late when your standing at the throne of "God" ALL by
    yourself


    And you won't have your defense attorney with you, when your charged Guilty.

  • jo-c

    Oh this is why the media portrays christians as ignorant hillbillies, esc. evangelicals

  • jo-c

    No kidding, one time i went to a church in colorado, a young adult group. they showed a documentary movie of moses crossing the red sea and used a computer animation to show how the shape of the plant or something fossilized, if u put a couple of lines here and there it was actually the wheel on the chariot of the egyptian king's chariot. This proved that moses parted the red sea.
    It was an evangelical church and these guys were like yeah i believe it. It wasn't funny it was actually sad and upsetting in a way. they went around asking people why you believed it and I just walked out. These kids had never gotten laid, I suspect it was part of the problem with their reasoning.

  • jo-c

    I can't wait

  • jo-c

    I guess i'm going to hell

  • jo-c

    this is funniest shit I've ever heard. no kidding, it's hilarious.

  • Joe

    Her name counts up as 555 maybe she is Antichrist Lite? Or Mark of the Not So Nice? I like to keep an open mind about shit as fucking ridiculous as creationism and the return of a middle eastern hippie God.

  • Danny

    Oh I wish I could spell....

  • Danny

    12 - Are you fuckin' series? Do you understand the dual concepts of comedy and satire? Are have I just been trolled? I actually hope so..

  • @SARAH


    You're a fucking idiot.

  • SARAH

    Sarah Palin's daughter was not raped. She was impregnated by her boyfriend.


    Your argument sort of loses all credibility when you make stuff up, Timm--even if it's 20 pages long.

  • nikolai

    I like the one about the silver bell (below, #23) encased in solid rock that evangelicals say PROVES earth is only 6,000 years old!


    http://www.morticom.com/categoryweirdearthanomalies.htm

  • goodfrog

    @badfrog:


    i would consider thinking that the earth is only 6-7k years old to be a massive breakdown in common sense - you can't even explain natural things like the grand canyon in 6-7k years! D'oh! yeah, she believes that there was at least 1 talking snake in history, all the animals we see today were because Noah rounded 2 of each up, the first human woman was made of clay, etc.... yeah sure, jusy oozing common sense.


    the VP (or P!) position is not about how nice a person you are, it's about how good your judgment and your ability to reason is. believing in these sorts of things as factual history clearly shows a lack of judgment and reason.


    who cares what Jeremiah Wright believes? this is the VP candidtate, not her pastor saying these things - and I'll bet we don't even want to know what her pastor believes. yikes! head for Canada or Mexico if this nutjob wins or becomes president!

  • sheen7334

    Oh, I just think she is so cute. Let's have her be vice-president, you know, the one who takes over when whats-his-name dies. She'll be swell.

  • bjames

    "Most people think,
    Great God will come from the skies,
    Take away everything
    And make everybody feel high.
    But if you know what life is worth,
    You will look for yours on earth"


    Bob Marley - Get Up Stand Up lyrics
    (I think Peter Tosh actually wrote the lyrics though)

  • badfrog

    Sarah Palin's insurmountable advantage is that she is not Barak Hussein Obama. She could be the Bride of Frankenstein and still win.


    Even though the media loves to portray Christians, and especially Evangelicals, as ignorant hillbillies, and especially Evangelicals, they are in my experience some of the kindest and best read people around, grounded in reality and filled with an uncommon common sense. A close examination of every religion will reveal some serious howlers. Besides, have you ever really looked at what Jeremiah Wright believes? Now THAT'S scary.

  • SGA

    Why can't I visit a website without someone pushing their beliefs on me?

  • SGA

    Don't force your atheistic beliefs on me!

  • SGA

    Who are you to say that she is wrong? Intolerance!!!

  • Hey, I have another biased second hand source of negative information about Palin! (with original website below)


    "Friday, September 12, 2008


    The REAL Truth About Sarah Palin Sarah Palin's many rabid supporters have attempted to paint a very mythic picture of their favorite (or 'favourite', for all you English chaps) female vice-presidential candidate.


    However, the facts stand for themselves:


    <ol>
    <li>

    Sarah Palin is a contortionist. She can fit in very small places, like the pocket books of big oil executives.

    </li>
    <li>

    She once was quoted as saying "I think we should dump massive of amounts of oil into the Arctic Sea. That's all part of God's plan."

    </li>
    <li>

    Sarah Palin is against a woman's right to choose. Her 17-year-old daughter, who was raped, wants to get an abortion, but Sarah Palin told her no.

    </li>
    <li>

    She supports the usage of grenade launchers to hunt small game, such as foxes.

    </li>
    <li>

    Sarah Palin supports the right to own guns. Well, in 1985, guns killed countless numbers of people.

    </li>
    <li>

    Sarah Palin once told reporters "I'm so glad there are no Mexicans in Alaska."

    </li>
    <li>

    She onces kicked a baby into heavy traffic, and thought it was hilarious. The baby died.

    </li>
    <li>

    If John McCain is the Emperor, Sarah Palin is Darth Vader.

    </li>
    <li>

    Sarah Palin once introduced a bill that would ban fun, including sex.

    </li>
    <li>

    Sarah Palin has repeatedly refused to go on the Maury Show. How do we know those kids are really hers?

    </li>
    <li>

    Sarah Palin once said that creationism should be taught in schools along with evolutionism. "Don't be afraid of information." she said. Information? More like falsemation.

    </li>
    <li>

    She gave tax cuts to big corporations. BIG corporations. CORPORATIONS. THAT ARE BIG.

    </li>
    </ol>

    Here is an actual letter I received from an actual real true friend of Sarah Palin's:


    Hello, my name is [name withheld]. Me and Sarah have known each other for years and years and we're very, very close. Our kids go to same school. I live on the same street as her. I've seen her naked. Twice. Anyhow, we know each other on a first-name basis, and we've even been to their Easter Party before, although, the cook burned the lamb dinner (and he was promptly fired) and we were forced to order pizza from Dominoes, although I clearly voiced that I wished to eat from Pizza Hut. However, Sarah never listens and proceeded to order from Dominoes instead, whose pizza tastes like garbage.


    Sarah has played Baby-Seal-Baseball. It's like baseball, but instead of a ball, they use a baby seal. It's a very cruel game which I only played three innings of before being disgusted and leaving the ballpark, but not before hitting two RBIs and getting two steals.


    Sarah Palin often throws a bunch of ideas out into the open, and if an idea gets a lot of support, she takes all the credit for her own idea. That tramp.


    When she got elected Mayor, fired all the experienced people on the city staff and hired a Funk Rock band to manage the city's affairs. These people were so high on the sticky-sticky at all times that it basically gave Sarah the power to carry out her agenda and get things done. I believe a city is best run when the Mayor and staff are constantly at odds over everything.


    Sarah is really good at hiding things from people. She once hid her 9-month pregnancy from her own family by always sitting down or behind something to cover her belly. Then, she would only move to various places when nobody was looking. What else is she hiding?


    You should've ordered the Pizza Hut, Sarah.


    Also, besides that true* letter which is certainly real, I figured out earlier today that Sarah Palin is literally the spawn of the Devil. Yes.


    You know the 666 code? Well, in the Biblical book of Revelations, the beast that takes over the world, known commonly as the Antichrist, has a number, 666, and if one can calculate what it means, they could figure out who the AC was.


    And the number basically breaks down to:


    600
    60
    6


    So, if you take the number of letters in Sarah Heath Palin's name (15) and multiply that times the number of months from the start of the reign of Palin (whose name almost rhymes with 'Satan'), you get 600. Now add her name's digits times the number of years she would spend in the white house under a normal presidential term, and you get 60, then add the number of years a Senate seat term, which John McCain holds, and you get a 6!


    omg, right?


    Oh, but behold, there is moar:


    If you take the date in which Sarah Palin began governor of Alaska (December 15) and turned it into a digit, it would be 12-5, right? Well, if you open your Bibles to the first book, Genesis, in chapter 12:5, that's where the first mention of Abraham's wife, SARAH is documented! Now, here's the part that will cause you to shit a brick... if you flip to the LAST book of the Bible, Revelations (which was written by a man named JOHN), and go to chapter 12:5, that's where the first mention of the antichrist is in a chapter titled "The Woman and The Dragon" and it goes on to explain how the first antichrist will DIE and be succeeded by a second one.


    *I'm not kidding


    On a scale of 1 - 10, with 1 being "She sucks" and 10 being "She's horrible", how much do you despise Sarah Palin's corrupt right-wing politics?


    (from: http://www.xanga.com/AvenueToTheReal)</p>

    [Sarah Palin bad, Joe Biden good.]


    -=T=-

  • Here is the "dinosaur fossils with human footprints" photos:


    http://www.paleo.cc/paluxy/paluxy.htm


    "However, the "man track" claims have not stood up to close scientific scrutiny, and in recent years have been abandoned even by most creationists."

  • I think I like the part about fossils with human footprints next to them best. Where did she see these?

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