Comments on: Ron Paul’s Views On Race Will Be His Downfall http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall grep understanding Fri, 25 May 2012 02:15:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Steve http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-82323 Steve Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:28:21 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-82323 <p>In a way I feel the writer of this article misunderstood what Paul was saying about Black males in D.C.. When Paul stated "Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." he spoke based on actual numbers. The numbers of black males in the criminal justice system are real and a fact is a fact. I feel he was being critical on the criminal justice system and basically his derisive words were aimed to those who have the power to clean it up and/or change it entirely.</p> <pre><code> Paul also stated "(paraphrasing) that good people like himself are always told that it’s wrong to be afraid of black men, but that given how much crime they commit it’s basically rational to have such a fear." in the same interview. I personally believe he is correct. With numbers like that who, white or black, would not be afraid? When 95% of the Black males in the city have spent some time in some phase of the correctional system almost no one can tell me they feel safe. He's right, ideally we would like to teach our children that the world is a gentle place,and not to judge by color or race or creed,but the numbers speak for themselves. Ask yourself- IF YOU HAD A CHOICE would you, white, black, brown, or red, raise your family in an area like that? This writer says no! In conclusion,I think Ron Paul was stating the obvious. That we need to do something about the problem, and he encourages change in the criminal justice system. </code></pre> In a way I feel the writer of this article misunderstood what Paul was saying about Black males in D.C.. When Paul stated “Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.” he spoke based on actual numbers. The numbers of black males in the criminal justice system are real and a fact is a fact. I feel he was being critical on the criminal justice system and basically his derisive words were aimed to those who have the power to clean it up and/or change it entirely.

 Paul also stated "(paraphrasing) that good people like himself are always told that it’s wrong to be afraid of black men, but that given how much crime they commit it’s basically rational to have such a fear." in the same interview. I personally believe he is correct. With numbers like that who, white or black, would not be afraid? When 95% of the Black males in the city have spent some time in some phase of the correctional system almost no one can tell me they feel safe. He's right, ideally we would like to teach our children that the world is a gentle place,and not to judge by color or race or creed,but the numbers speak for themselves. Ask yourself- IF YOU HAD A CHOICE would you, white, black, brown, or red, raise your family in an area like that? This writer says no!

 In conclusion,I think Ron Paul was stating the obvious. That we need to do something about the problem, and he encourages change in the criminal justice system.
]]> By: Steve http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-247858 Steve Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:28:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-247858 <p>In a way I feel the writer of this article misunderstood what Paul was saying about Black males in D.C.. When Paul stated "Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." he spoke based on actual numbers. The numbers of black males in the criminal justice system are real and a fact is a fact. I feel he was being critical on the criminal justice system and basically his derisive words were aimed to those who have the power to clean it up and/or change it entirely.</p> <p><pre><code> Paul also stated "(paraphrasing) that good people like himself are always told that it’s wrong to be afraid of black men, but that given how much crime they commit it’s basically rational to have such a fear." in the same interview. I personally believe he is correct. With numbers like that who, white or black, would not be afraid? When 95% of the Black males in the city have spent some time in some phase of the correctional system almost no one can tell me they feel safe. He's right, ideally we would like to teach our children that the world is a gentle place,and not to judge by color or race or creed,but the numbers speak for themselves. Ask yourself- IF YOU HAD A CHOICE would you, white, black, brown, or red, raise your family in an area like that? This writer says no!</p> <p>In conclusion,I think Ron Paul was stating the obvious. That we need to do something about the problem, and he encourages change in the criminal justice system. </code></pre></p> In a way I feel the writer of this article misunderstood what Paul was saying about Black males in D.C.. When Paul stated “Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.” he spoke based on actual numbers. The numbers of black males in the criminal justice system are real and a fact is a fact. I feel he was being critical on the criminal justice system and basically his derisive words were aimed to those who have the power to clean it up and/or change it entirely.

 Paul also stated "(paraphrasing) that good people like himself are always told that it’s wrong to be afraid of black men, but that given how much crime they commit it’s basically rational to have such a fear." in the same interview. I personally believe he is correct. With numbers like that who, white or black, would not be afraid? When 95% of the Black males in the city have spent some time in some phase of the correctional system almost no one can tell me they feel safe. He's right, ideally we would like to teach our children that the world is a gentle place,and not to judge by color or race or creed,but the numbers speak for themselves. Ask yourself- IF YOU HAD A CHOICE would you, white, black, brown, or red, raise your family in an area like that? This writer says no!

In conclusion,I think Ron Paul was stating the obvious. That we need to do something about the problem, and he encourages change in the criminal justice system.

]]> By: Terje http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-60251 Terje Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:25:01 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-60251 <p>From Lawrence B. Joseph (1992) "Crime, Communities and Public Policy":</p> <p>"An estimated 70 percent of Black males in the District of Columbia are arrested before the age of 35, and 85 percent will be arrested sometime during their lives (Miller, 1992)"</p> <p>Papers presented at the fourth annual Chicago Assembly, held Nov. 19-20, 1992, in St. Charles, Ill.</p> <p>http://books.google.com/books?id=selr6BDsMNAC&pg=PA141&lpg=PA141&dq=1992 "85 percent" "black men" "district of columbia" arrested&source=web&ots=s_f7nW30L6&sig=rO76KiKdKqTqkpifYvx8_xxlQ3k</p> From Lawrence B. Joseph (1992) “Crime, Communities and Public Policy”:

“An estimated 70 percent of Black males in the District of Columbia are arrested before the age of 35, and 85 percent will be arrested sometime during their lives (Miller, 1992)”

Papers presented at the fourth annual Chicago Assembly, held Nov. 19-20, 1992, in St. Charles, Ill.

http://books.google.com/books?id=selr6BDsMNAC&pg=PA141&lpg=PA141&dq=1992 “85 percent” “black men” “district of columbia” arrested&source=web&ots=s_f7nW30L6&sig=rO76KiKdKqTqkpifYvx8_xxlQ3k

]]> By: Terje http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-247857 Terje Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:25:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-247857 <p>From Lawrence B. Joseph (1992) "Crime, Communities and Public Policy":</p> <p>"An estimated 70 percent of Black males in the District of Columbia are arrested before the age of 35, and 85 percent will be arrested sometime during their lives (Miller, 1992)"</p> <p>Papers presented at the fourth annual Chicago Assembly, held Nov. 19-20, 1992, in St. Charles, Ill.</p> <p>http://books.google.com/books?id=selr6BDsMNAC&pg=PA141&lpg=PA141&dq=1992 "85 percent" "black men" "district of columbia" arrested&source=web&ots=s_f7nW30L6&sig=rO76KiKdKqTqkpifYvx8_xxlQ3k</p> From Lawrence B. Joseph (1992) “Crime, Communities and Public Policy”:

“An estimated 70 percent of Black males in the District of Columbia are arrested before the age of 35, and 85 percent will be arrested sometime during their lives (Miller, 1992)”

Papers presented at the fourth annual Chicago Assembly, held Nov. 19-20, 1992, in St. Charles, Ill.

http://books.google.com/books?id=selr6BDsMNAC&pg=PA141&lpg=PA141&dq=1992 “85 percent” “black men” “district of columbia” arrested&source=web&ots=s_f7nW30L6&sig=rO76KiKdKqTqkpifYvx8_xxlQ3k

]]> By: Mike http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-60236 Mike Fri, 08 Jun 2007 01:01:01 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-60236 <p>Carlos - Please do some research on this. He DOES realize black males are targeted...</p> <p>His comment about "95% of black males are criminals" was an attack at what he referred to as a an inneficient laughing stalk - the criminal justice system;</p> <p>"In another issue, he cited reports that 85 percent of all black men in Washington, D.C., are arrested at some point: “Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”"</p> <p>He DOES understand that things aren't fair.</p> Carlos – Please do some research on this. He DOES realize black males are targeted…

His comment about “95% of black males are criminals” was an attack at what he referred to as a an inneficient laughing stalk – the criminal justice system;

“In another issue, he cited reports that 85 percent of all black men in Washington, D.C., are arrested at some point: “Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.””

He DOES understand that things aren’t fair.

]]> By: Mike http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-247856 Mike Fri, 08 Jun 2007 01:01:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-247856 <p>Carlos - Please do some research on this. He DOES realize black males are targeted...</p> <p>His comment about "95% of black males are criminals" was an attack at what he referred to as a an inneficient laughing stalk - the criminal justice system;</p> <p>"In another issue, he cited reports that 85 percent of all black men in Washington, D.C., are arrested at some point: “Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”"</p> <p>He DOES understand that things aren't fair.</p> Carlos – Please do some research on this. He DOES realize black males are targeted…

His comment about “95% of black males are criminals” was an attack at what he referred to as a an inneficient laughing stalk – the criminal justice system;

“In another issue, he cited reports that 85 percent of all black men in Washington, D.C., are arrested at some point: “Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.””

He DOES understand that things aren’t fair.

]]> By: carlos http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-59906 carlos Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:22:10 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-59906 <p>Most of what Ron Paul has said about the role of our federal government makes since to me. However, his comments about blacks just show how he is out of touch with what really goes on in the streets. It worries me that he doesn't realize that black males are targeted and they are incarcerated when a young white males are sent home with a warning for the same crime. The police routinely booked and fingerprinted kids a my high school when they were tardy. I wonder how often that happened at his kids school. How many times has he been laid out on the concrete while his car was searched? Ron Paul will need to show me that he can come to grips with the realities of race and the environment before he'll get my vote.</p> Most of what Ron Paul has said about the role of our federal government makes since to me. However, his comments about blacks just show how he is out of touch with what really goes on in the streets. It worries me that he doesn’t realize that black males are targeted and they are incarcerated when a young white males are sent home with a warning for the same crime. The police routinely booked and fingerprinted kids a my high school when they were tardy. I wonder how often that happened at his kids school. How many times has he been laid out on the concrete while his car was searched? Ron Paul will need to show me that he can come to grips with the realities of race and the environment before he’ll get my vote.

]]> By: carlos http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-247855 carlos Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:22:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-247855 <p>Most of what Ron Paul has said about the role of our federal government makes since to me. However, his comments about blacks just show how he is out of touch with what really goes on in the streets. It worries me that he doesn't realize that black males are targeted and they are incarcerated when a young white males are sent home with a warning for the same crime. The police routinely booked and fingerprinted kids a my high school when they were tardy. I wonder how often that happened at his kids school. How many times has he been laid out on the concrete while his car was searched? Ron Paul will need to show me that he can come to grips with the realities of race and the environment before he'll get my vote.</p> Most of what Ron Paul has said about the role of our federal government makes since to me. However, his comments about blacks just show how he is out of touch with what really goes on in the streets. It worries me that he doesn’t realize that black males are targeted and they are incarcerated when a young white males are sent home with a warning for the same crime. The police routinely booked and fingerprinted kids a my high school when they were tardy. I wonder how often that happened at his kids school. How many times has he been laid out on the concrete while his car was searched? Ron Paul will need to show me that he can come to grips with the realities of race and the environment before he’ll get my vote.

]]> By: anthonyperone http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-59500 anthonyperone Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:35:40 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-59500 <p>RON PAUL IS A TRUTH-TELLER. 'MOST PEOPLE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.'WE NEED MORE LIKE HIM AND ROSS PEROT AND GORE VIDAL AND MURTHA AND LINDBERGH. (NO REPUBLICAN COMES TO MIND). IN THE END WE CAN SORT OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN UNPOPULAR AND TACTLESS SPEAKER, AND AN IDEOLOGUE. THE REASON THE RON-PAULS GET OUR ATTENTION IS THAT WE SEE THE TRUE BITS IN HIS SPEECHES. WE CANNOT CALL OURSELVES A DEMOCRACY UNTIL WE ENSURE RON-PAULS RIGHT TO OFFEND.</p> RON PAUL IS A TRUTH-TELLER. ‘MOST PEOPLE CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH.’WE NEED MORE LIKE HIM AND ROSS PEROT AND GORE VIDAL AND MURTHA AND LINDBERGH. (NO REPUBLICAN COMES TO MIND). IN THE END WE CAN SORT OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN UNPOPULAR AND TACTLESS SPEAKER, AND AN IDEOLOGUE. THE REASON THE RON-PAULS GET OUR ATTENTION IS THAT WE SEE THE TRUE BITS IN HIS SPEECHES. WE CANNOT CALL OURSELVES A DEMOCRACY UNTIL WE ENSURE RON-PAULS RIGHT TO OFFEND.

]]> By: WHITE DRAGON http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-247854 WHITE DRAGON Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:35:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-247854 <p>RON PAUL IS A TRUTH-TELLER. 'MOST PEOPLE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.'WE NEED MORE LIKE HIM AND ROSS PEROT AND GORE VIDAL AND MURTHA AND LINDBERGH. (NO REPUBLICAN COMES TO MIND). IN THE END WE CAN SORT OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN UNPOPULAR AND TACTLESS SPEAKER, AND AN IDEOLOGUE. THE REASON THE RON-PAULS GET OUR ATTENTION IS THAT WE SEE THE TRUE BITS IN HIS SPEECHES. WE CANNOT CALL OURSELVES A DEMOCRACY UNTIL WE ENSURE RON-PAULS RIGHT TO OFFEND.</p> RON PAUL IS A TRUTH-TELLER. ‘MOST PEOPLE CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH.’WE NEED MORE LIKE HIM AND ROSS PEROT AND GORE VIDAL AND MURTHA AND LINDBERGH. (NO REPUBLICAN COMES TO MIND). IN THE END WE CAN SORT OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN UNPOPULAR AND TACTLESS SPEAKER, AND AN IDEOLOGUE. THE REASON THE RON-PAULS GET OUR ATTENTION IS THAT WE SEE THE TRUE BITS IN HIS SPEECHES. WE CANNOT CALL OURSELVES A DEMOCRACY UNTIL WE ENSURE RON-PAULS RIGHT TO OFFEND.

]]> By: Tyler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-58298 Tyler Thu, 31 May 2007 02:58:43 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-58298 <p>How many times do you people have to be told? Those remarks were NOT WRITTEN BY RON PAUL. They appeared in ONE article written by an aid. Ron Paul had never written anything like that before or since, and that aid was fired.</p> <p>And, if Ron Paul was a racist, why would Walter Williams be his first choice as a running mate????</p> <p>Walter Williams: http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams</p> <p>DEBUNKED!!!</p> <p>NEXT.</p> <p>That is a quote from digg</p> <p>http://www.digg.com/political_opinion/Ron_Paul_s_Views_On_Race_Will_Be_His_Downfall</p> How many times do you people have to be told? Those remarks were NOT WRITTEN BY RON PAUL. They appeared in ONE article written by an aid. Ron Paul had never written anything like that before or since, and that aid was fired.

And, if Ron Paul was a racist, why would Walter Williams be his first choice as a running mate????

Walter Williams: http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams

DEBUNKED!!!

NEXT.

That is a quote from digg

http://www.digg.com/political_opinion/Ron_Paul_s_Views_On_Race_Will_Be_His_Downfall

]]> By: Tyler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-247853 Tyler Thu, 31 May 2007 02:58:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-247853 <p>How many times do you people have to be told? Those remarks were NOT WRITTEN BY RON PAUL. They appeared in ONE article written by an aid. Ron Paul had never written anything like that before or since, and that aid was fired.</p> <p>And, if Ron Paul was a racist, why would Walter Williams be his first choice as a running mate????</p> <p>Walter Williams: http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams</p> <p>DEBUNKED!!!</p> <p>NEXT.</p> <p>That is a quote from digg</p> <p>http://www.digg.com/political_opinion/Ron_Paul_s_Views_On_Race_Will_Be_His_Downfall</p> How many times do you people have to be told? Those remarks were NOT WRITTEN BY RON PAUL. They appeared in ONE article written by an aid. Ron Paul had never written anything like that before or since, and that aid was fired.

And, if Ron Paul was a racist, why would Walter Williams be his first choice as a running mate????

Walter Williams: http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams

DEBUNKED!!!

NEXT.

That is a quote from digg

http://www.digg.com/political_opinion/Ron_Paul_s_Views_On_Race_Will_Be_His_Downfall

]]> By: Daniel Miessler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-57976 Daniel Miessler Tue, 29 May 2007 20:30:36 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-57976 <p>A Ron Paul Primer http://dmiessler.com/archives/1317</p> <p>I'm a Ron Paul supporter, man. He's who I'm likely voting for; I was simply voicing my concerns over content that is likely to hurt his chances (if not destroy him) as an option in 2008.</p> A Ron Paul Primer http://dmiessler.com/archives/1317

I’m a Ron Paul supporter, man. He’s who I’m likely voting for; I was simply voicing my concerns over content that is likely to hurt his chances (if not destroy him) as an option in 2008.

]]> By: Daniel Miessler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-247852 Daniel Miessler Tue, 29 May 2007 20:30:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-247852 <p>A Ron Paul Primer http://dmiessler.com/archives/1317</p> <p>I'm a Ron Paul supporter, man. He's who I'm likely voting for; I was simply voicing my concerns over content that is likely to hurt his chances (if not destroy him) as an option in 2008.</p> A Ron Paul Primer http://dmiessler.com/archives/1317

I’m a Ron Paul supporter, man. He’s who I’m likely voting for; I was simply voicing my concerns over content that is likely to hurt his chances (if not destroy him) as an option in 2008.

]]> By: Bob Weaver http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-57971 Bob Weaver Tue, 29 May 2007 19:10:55 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-57971 <p>Oh, I just love how you take Ron Paul's words out of context. Spin doctors like yourself make me sick. Just as main stream media's attempt to demonize Ron for saying that the attacks of 9/11 where our fault (which are the words of the 9/11 Commission Report, and not his own) backfired, so will this little attempt to stir racial tensions against the man. For shame, on you and all your fellow spin misters for claiming such lies where Ron Paul's words. When any boob can see that your quote is obviously only a small segment of the actual speech.</p> Oh, I just love how you take Ron Paul’s words out of context. Spin doctors like yourself make me sick. Just as main stream media’s attempt to demonize Ron for saying that the attacks of 9/11 where our fault (which are the words of the 9/11 Commission Report, and not his own) backfired, so will this little attempt to stir racial tensions against the man. For shame, on you and all your fellow spin misters for claiming such lies where Ron Paul’s words. When any boob can see that your quote is obviously only a small segment of the actual speech.

]]> By: Bob Weaver http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-247851 Bob Weaver Tue, 29 May 2007 19:10:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-247851 <p>Oh, I just love how you take Ron Paul's words out of context. Spin doctors like yourself make me sick. Just as main stream media's attempt to demonize Ron for saying that the attacks of 9/11 where our fault (which are the words of the 9/11 Commission Report, and not his own) backfired, so will this little attempt to stir racial tensions against the man. For shame, on you and all your fellow spin misters for claiming such lies where Ron Paul's words. When any boob can see that your quote is obviously only a small segment of the actual speech.</p> Oh, I just love how you take Ron Paul’s words out of context. Spin doctors like yourself make me sick. Just as main stream media’s attempt to demonize Ron for saying that the attacks of 9/11 where our fault (which are the words of the 9/11 Commission Report, and not his own) backfired, so will this little attempt to stir racial tensions against the man. For shame, on you and all your fellow spin misters for claiming such lies where Ron Paul’s words. When any boob can see that your quote is obviously only a small segment of the actual speech.

]]> By: Holly http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-56731 Holly Wed, 23 May 2007 12:49:01 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-56731 <p>Those quotes should not be attributed to Ron Paul. It's fairly easy to see how they completely conflict with his views. I quote Ron Paul's article on Government and Racism elsewhere in this blog, but I will repeat it here (quoted from http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul381.html):</p> <p>"Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist.</p> <p>The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity." - Ron Paul</p> Those quotes should not be attributed to Ron Paul. It’s fairly easy to see how they completely conflict with his views. I quote Ron Paul’s article on Government and Racism elsewhere in this blog, but I will repeat it here (quoted from http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul381.html):

“Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called “diversity” actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist.

The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity.” – Ron Paul

]]> By: Holly http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-247850 Holly Wed, 23 May 2007 12:49:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-247850 <p>Those quotes should not be attributed to Ron Paul. It's fairly easy to see how they completely conflict with his views. I quote Ron Paul's article on Government and Racism elsewhere in this blog, but I will repeat it here (quoted from http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul381.html):</p> <p>"Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist.</p> <p>The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity." - Ron Paul</p> Those quotes should not be attributed to Ron Paul. It’s fairly easy to see how they completely conflict with his views. I quote Ron Paul’s article on Government and Racism elsewhere in this blog, but I will repeat it here (quoted from http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul381.html):

“Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called “diversity” actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist.

The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity.” – Ron Paul

]]> By: Gloria http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-56665 Gloria Wed, 23 May 2007 04:26:28 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-56665 <p>I told an atheist friend about Ron Paul, and he was completely gung ho on him until he saw that he was Christian. I'm amazed... because aren't all the candidates Christians? I believe a poll came out saying that an atheist would be less likely than a gay person to be elected as president.</p> <p>Basically, Ron Paul is a Christian himself-- all the candidates are. He believes that all private organizations should do more things that the government currently does. Under him, taxes would be much lower and we could donate to private organizations more frequently, ones that do whatever we wish rather than having the gov. dictate where our money goes. For example, FEMA might not exist and after a disaster, the Red Cross-- which would have a lot more money than it does today from donations-- would come in and take care of it, not the government. Anyone who saw how unorganized FEMA was compared to the Red Cross after Hurricane Katrina will not object to this. The government just makes everything a bureaucracy and much more expensive than it really is.</p> <p>So, because private organizations would have more money, both churches and other nonprofits would maybe have more money and do more things like AIDS relief in Africa, saving the environment, etc., all those do-gooder things that the goverment spends our money on now. However, he believes strongly in the separation of church and state and is much more for personal liberty and freedom than any other candidate.</p> <p>If you read anything he writes, you know those quotes you cite are not his. They're not his style of writing or speaking, and he has said that racism is a "collectivist mindset that denigrates the individual".</p> I told an atheist friend about Ron Paul, and he was completely gung ho on him until he saw that he was Christian. I’m amazed… because aren’t all the candidates Christians? I believe a poll came out saying that an atheist would be less likely than a gay person to be elected as president.

Basically, Ron Paul is a Christian himself– all the candidates are. He believes that all private organizations should do more things that the government currently does. Under him, taxes would be much lower and we could donate to private organizations more frequently, ones that do whatever we wish rather than having the gov. dictate where our money goes. For example, FEMA might not exist and after a disaster, the Red Cross– which would have a lot more money than it does today from donations– would come in and take care of it, not the government. Anyone who saw how unorganized FEMA was compared to the Red Cross after Hurricane Katrina will not object to this. The government just makes everything a bureaucracy and much more expensive than it really is.

So, because private organizations would have more money, both churches and other nonprofits would maybe have more money and do more things like AIDS relief in Africa, saving the environment, etc., all those do-gooder things that the goverment spends our money on now. However, he believes strongly in the separation of church and state and is much more for personal liberty and freedom than any other candidate.

If you read anything he writes, you know those quotes you cite are not his. They’re not his style of writing or speaking, and he has said that racism is a “collectivist mindset that denigrates the individual”.

]]> By: Gloria http://danielmiessler.com/blog/ron-pauls-views-on-race-will-be-his-downfall/comment-page-1#comment-247849 Gloria Wed, 23 May 2007 04:26:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/archives/1346#comment-247849 <p>I told an atheist friend about Ron Paul, and he was completely gung ho on him until he saw that he was Christian. I'm amazed... because aren't all the candidates Christians? I believe a poll came out saying that an atheist would be less likely than a gay person to be elected as president.</p> <p>Basically, Ron Paul is a Christian himself-- all the candidates are. He believes that all private organizations should do more things that the government currently does. Under him, taxes would be much lower and we could donate to private organizations more frequently, ones that do whatever we wish rather than having the gov. dictate where our money goes. For example, FEMA might not exist and after a disaster, the Red Cross-- which would have a lot more money than it does today from donations-- would come in and take care of it, not the government. Anyone who saw how unorganized FEMA was compared to the Red Cross after Hurricane Katrina will not object to this. The government just makes everything a bureaucracy and much more expensive than it really is.</p> <p>So, because private organizations would have more money, both churches and other nonprofits would maybe have more money and do more things like AIDS relief in Africa, saving the environment, etc., all those do-gooder things that the goverment spends our money on now. However, he believes strongly in the separation of church and state and is much more for personal liberty and freedom than any other candidate.</p> <p>If you read anything he writes, you know those quotes you cite are not his. They're not his style of writing or speaking, and he has said that racism is a "collectivist mindset that denigrates the individual".</p> I told an atheist friend about Ron Paul, and he was completely gung ho on him until he saw that he was Christian. I’m amazed… because aren’t all the candidates Christians? I believe a poll came out saying that an atheist would be less likely than a gay person to be elected as president.

Basically, Ron Paul is a Christian himself– all the candidates are. He believes that all private organizations should do more things that the government currently does. Under him, taxes would be much lower and we could donate to private organizations more frequently, ones that do whatever we wish rather than having the gov. dictate where our money goes. For example, FEMA might not exist and after a disaster, the Red Cross– which would have a lot more money than it does today from donations– would come in and take care of it, not the government. Anyone who saw how unorganized FEMA was compared to the Red Cross after Hurricane Katrina will not object to this. The government just makes everything a bureaucracy and much more expensive than it really is.

So, because private organizations would have more money, both churches and other nonprofits would maybe have more money and do more things like AIDS relief in Africa, saving the environment, etc., all those do-gooder things that the goverment spends our money on now. However, he believes strongly in the separation of church and state and is much more for personal liberty and freedom than any other candidate.

If you read anything he writes, you know those quotes you cite are not his. They’re not his style of writing or speaking, and he has said that racism is a “collectivist mindset that denigrates the individual”.

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