Ron Paul Being Crazy Again

By Daniel Miessler on August 6th, 2009: Tagged as Economics | Politics
  • CarlM

    I agree that leaving things to the experts is a good thing, but even experts are not always right. Until recently, many (most?) expert economists believed that market forces caused markets to be self-correcting. It turns out that it wasn't as simple as that. That said, I'd still prefer to trust experts.

    On the subject of education (which I realize you brought up only tangentially), I've never understood the desire in some to abolish the Department of Education. People want local control in education, but perhaps because of the Department of Education, I'm not aware of any state that doesn't control curriculum to at least some degree at the state level. I think that the fact that there is still a debate in parts of this country about whether the theory of evolution ought to be taught in science classes is a pretty good reason not to leave educational decisions entirely under local control. I believe in oversight. (I also believe that can and should [and MUST] do better in teaching the basics .. reading, writing, and arithmetic.)

    Carl

  • John C. Randolph

    Daniel,

    Your post boils down to “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”.

    The constitution gives the congress the power to “coin money, and regulate the value thereof.” It does not empower the congress to charter a central bank to issue a fiat currency. It does not permit the congress to delegate this responsibility to another branch of government, much less a privately-owned banking cartel.

    The sole purpose of the Fed (just like the two previous unconstitutional central banks which preceded it) is, and has always been, to inflate the currency for the benefit of the banks which own it. This is made plain by the fact that the dollar has lost over ninety percent of its purchasing power since the Fed was created in 1913. Any other ostensible purpose of the Fed is nothing but a smokescreen.

    Dr. Paul's bill to audit the Fed is a very modest step towards making the congress stop shirking its duty.

    -jcr

  • http://kenswain.com kenotic

    I don't believe this! How can we, as Americans, not be behind auditing the fed? In your post you mention protecting the people form big corporations. That is what this bill will do. The fed is a private institution and as such mostly concerned with profit.

    As far as the DoE is concerned. Do you see better education coming from public schools or private schools? I think most people will tell you that better education comes from private schools. We are taxed to provide schools and it is a failure in most areas. Does anyone know how much of tax dollars go to what it is collected for? I do not know the number, but I am sure it is inefficient. Just look at social security.

  • cooperati

    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Sy

    “One of the first criticisms of the private nature of the Federal Reserve system was Charles August Lindbergh who criticized the problem of private banks working against the best interests of the citizens: “The financial system has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That Board administers the finance system by authority of a purely profiteering group. The system is Private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money.”

    There's more, including a startling proposal by Fed chairman Bernanke that the Fed was a probable cause of the Great Depression. But this one great caveat to our forced involvement in their private enterprises is not one t be overlooked. If left unchecked, privateers will have no qualms about raiding the economy for their own purposes, and simply leaving us to deal with the aftermath.

    Or is that the case already?

    An audit will tell you.

    -=T=-

  • cooperati

    Lastly, what do you trust the most?

    Policy made in privacy, or transparently, with regards to responsibility over the public interest?

    Or, more basically, would you trust publicly accountable politicians or entrepreneurs granted special powers over their market?

    -=T=-

  • http://danielmiessler.com/ Daniel Miessler

    No, it doesn't boil down to “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”. As I said, we already audit the fed. It's very open, actually. The main thing that's not open is the tweaking of interest rates, and this is for a very specific reason–WE DON'T WANT POLITICIANS GETTING THEIR STUPID, GREEDY HANDS IN THAT PROCESS.

    Why? Because they'll destroy it out of self-interest.

    That is what Congressman Paul's bill will do–it'll give greedy politicians the ability to second-guess experts in monetary policy in the name of their own ignorance and greed.

    This is not a good thing.

  • http://danielmiessler.com/ Daniel Miessler

    As I said, we already audit the fed. It's very open, actually. The main thing that's not open is the tweaking of interest rates, and this is for a very specific reason–WE DON'T WANT POLITICIANS GETTING THEIR STUPID, GREEDY HANDS IN THAT PROCESS.

    Why? Because they'll destroy it out of self-interest.

    That is what Congressman Paul's bill will do–it'll give greedy politicians the ability to second-guess experts in monetary policy in the name of their own ignorance and greed.

    This is not a good thing.

  • http://danielmiessler.com/ Daniel Miessler

    Accountable politicians require an intelligent, educated, and engaged population. We don't have one of those.

  • cooperati

    “Accountable politicians require an intelligent, educated, and engaged population. We don't have one of those.”

    That is not a good enough reason for me to stay silent and let self serving businessmen feed their avarice while isolating themselves behind layers of congressional allowances.

    Even if their both in bed in a symbiotic relationship, wherein just who is answerable for each situation becomes vague, there isn't a good enough reason to sit down and take everything they can think up for my economy.

    To do so is to give up on my rights. If I do that, I deserve whatever they can do to me.

    Have you given up?

    -=T=-

  • http://kenswain.com kenotic

    I disagree. It will give the public incite into what is going on in the fed. Do you really want people to control your financial future without you knowing. Surely you see this as a really bad idea. Because by fallowing your line of logic, we should not really have to know what bills get passed and why or what actions our government takes and why. They are experts and we are not. So we should just trust them. Where has that gotten us?

  • Jon Robinson

    you are assuming that we should have the fed and leaving out all the harm that interest rate controls (money price controls) have on the economy. Price controls cause shortages or excesses and make it difficult for market actors to make decisions. Price controls on money are no different. Adding zeros to banks accounts to loan out (inflating the money supply) devalues all of the money that normal people have actually worked for and transfers wealth from the normal person to the bankers and government. It is the modern day equivalent of the Romans clipping and debasing coins in order to pay their debts. The Fed/government are stealing money from us in this way and distributing it to whom they will. Pauls strategy is to weaken the Fed so that we can eventually abolish it. We don't need a central body controlling interest rates, just like we don't need a central body controlling how much bread, steel or whatever else we produce.

    Actually, on your FDA concern, you also ignore all the good drugs that they keep from the market. As far as safety goes, why couldn't several private companies start up certification/approval systems that consumers came to trust. Drug and food companies would get tested by these independent testing bodies to make them more marketable. Consumers could choose to self-medicate based on whatever amount of knowledge they would want to collect based on their risk preference. The food and drug industry would advance more quickly and be safer because it wouldn't be regulated by a monopoly (FDA). If you don't respect individuals as owners of their bodies, I could see that this wouldn't be acceptable though.


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