I’ll take that as a no.

However, when you say:

“In short, if both of the above are true you are likely making a significant portion of your decision based on race—not consciously, but subconsciously.”

the very clear implication is that the beholder of such decision IS a racist, even if so by subconscious means, unaware of who they are, and that you are telling them so, since they have such strong opinions towards Obama.

I’ve got one better. You DID mention two qualifiers, (1) not wanting your daughter to marry a black under any circumstances, AND (2) “really” not liking Obama.

Since the first qualifier is a defining racist trait, we could leave it at that. A racist to any extent that doesn’t like Obama is still a racist. It’s like saying a clown who drives a Lexus is still a clown.

Yet, why is this post about people who strongly dislike Obama? To tie the two together, and join those in both categories, making them mutually inclusive, establishing more relation between the two than actually exists.

We can extend this exercise in another parallel direction. If you (a) strongly dislike Obama AND (b) strongly dislike Muslims, you might find him a convenient person to vent your hatred upon, “…then you should re-evaluate your thoughts/feelings regarding Obama. In short, if both of the above are true you are likely making a significant portion of your decision based on” –religion–”—not consciously, but subconsciously.” This is your logic, I understand it very well.

Although I have an adverse reaction to the mentioning of Obama for President, primarily because of his policy proposals, I would not be adverse to having such an influential young man capture my daughter’s future affections, and not to spite his dark complection and the fate it “deserves”, but because that young man is enterprising, educated, and successful, (even if so by exploitative means, which too often are rewarded these days, especially if they are lawyers). I have no reason to believe that he would mistreat my daughter. Obama is not Othello, and there is no evidence of that concerning Obama, and should such qualities her happy, I would be satisfied. Also, Obama lacks the experience to be President, but inexperience is a worthwhile commodity in the suitors of a father’s daughter.

No help needed. I’m just enjoying the conversation.

-=T=-

I’ll take that as a no.

However, when you say:

“In short, if both of the above are true you are likely making a significant portion of your decision based on race—not consciously, but subconsciously.”

the very clear implication is that the beholder of such decision IS a racist, even if so by subconscious means, unaware of who they are, and that you are telling them so, since they have such strong opinions towards Obama.

I’ve got one better. You DID mention two qualifiers, (1) not wanting your daughter to marry a black under any circumstances, AND (2) “really” not liking Obama.

Since the first qualifier is a defining racist trait, we could leave it at that. A racist to any extent that doesn’t like Obama is still a racist. It’s like saying a clown who drives a Lexus is still a clown.

Yet, why is this post about people who strongly dislike Obama? To tie the two together, and join those in both categories, making them mutually inclusive, establishing more relation between the two than actually exists.

We can extend this exercise in another parallel direction. If you (a) strongly dislike Obama AND (b) strongly dislike Muslims, you might find him a convenient person to vent your hatred upon, “…then you should re-evaluate your thoughts/feelings regarding Obama. In short, if both of the above are true you are likely making a significant portion of your decision based on” –religion–”—not consciously, but subconsciously.” This is your logic, I understand it very well.

Although I have an adverse reaction to the mentioning of Obama for President, primarily because of his policy proposals, I would not be adverse to having such an influential young man capture my daughter’s future affections, and not to spite his dark complection and the fate it “deserves”, but because that young man is enterprising, educated, and successful, (even if so by exploitative means, which too often are rewarded these days, especially if they are lawyers). I have no reason to believe that he would mistreat my daughter. Obama is not Othello, and there is no evidence of that concerning Obama, and should such qualities her happy, I would be satisfied. Also, Obama lacks the experience to be President, but inexperience is a worthwhile commodity in the suitors of a father’s daughter.

No help needed. I’m just enjoying the conversation.

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I said the following in the original post:

Let’s be clear: I’m not saying that anyone who doesn’t like Obama is definitely making the entire decision based on race; that’s a severe overextension.

Then you asked:

Is the bottom line of this piece that anyone who has a strong negative reaction to Obama an anti-black racist?

If you can’t see the problem here then I can’t really help you.

I said the following in the original post:

Let’s be clear: I’m not saying that anyone who doesn’t like Obama is definitely making the entire decision based on race; that’s a severe overextension.

Then you asked:

Is the bottom line of this piece that anyone who has a strong negative reaction to Obama an anti-black racist?

If you can’t see the problem here then I can’t really help you.

Your political posts really smack of the same closed mindedness you go on about on your religious posts.

Your political posts really smack of the same closed mindedness you go on about on your religious posts.

I don’t see anybody stumping against Obama on the basis that they have no rationale or that they are against their daughters dating blacks. It’s an open field on those points, or lack thereof.

Dan,

Read it a few times before you assumed I didn’t, thank you.

Both of you,

If you are willing to propose that the possibility exists that voters are against Obama because they are racist to any extent, it follows logically that the possibility exists that other voters who are for Obama are also equally racist. You cannot accept one and deny the other, no matter how convenient. Logic does not permit this.

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I don’t see anybody stumping against Obama on the basis that they have no rationale or that they are against their daughters dating blacks. It’s an open field on those points, or lack thereof.

Dan,

Read it a few times before you assumed I didn’t, thank you.

Both of you,

If you are willing to propose that the possibility exists that voters are against Obama because they are racist to any extent, it follows logically that the possibility exists that other voters who are for Obama are also equally racist. You cannot accept one and deny the other, no matter how convenient. Logic does not permit this.

-=T=-

Is the bottom line of this piece that anyone who has a strong negative reaction to Obama an anti-black racist?

That would equate to everyone who has a strong positive reaction to Obama being a pro-black racist.

I suppose it is concievable to believe that everyone who doesn’t like something does so outrightly from an ignorant basis, for no good reason, carelessly. Of course, this implies the reason why you don’t like McCain.

I don’t support this position. In fact, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’ve thought out your views on the candidates.

-=T=-

Is the bottom line of this piece that anyone who has a strong negative reaction to Obama an anti-black racist?

That would equate to everyone who has a strong positive reaction to Obama being a pro-black racist.

I suppose it is concievable to believe that everyone who doesn’t like something does so outrightly from an ignorant basis, for no good reason, carelessly. Of course, this implies the reason why you don’t like McCain.

I don’t support this position. In fact, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’ve thought out your views on the candidates.

-=T=-

Right on.

Brooks: Do you like the Republican position on our 1A,4A and 5A?

Right on.

Brooks: Do you like the Republican position on our 1A,4A and 5A?

Why is it so hard to understand I do not vote Obama because I don’t like his energy policy (though improving), his 2A policies (Constitutional Scholar my Bum), or the fact he wishes to take from me (since I can afford it) and give it to those who “need” (not work) for it.

If I voted for Obama, it would be to simply elect a black man, and that in my opinion WOULD be racist.

Why is it so hard to understand I do not vote Obama because I don’t like his energy policy (though improving), his 2A policies (Constitutional Scholar my Bum), or the fact he wishes to take from me (since I can afford it) and give it to those who “need” (not work) for it.

If I voted for Obama, it would be to simply elect a black man, and that in my opinion WOULD be racist.