Question: When Do We, As Paul Supporters, Switch to Obama?

Never. The Democrats and Republicans offer no real difference. The two parties play on the petty fears of illegals, environment, guns, and abortion to make it seem like there’s a whit of substance between them, but they’re both steering the ship in the same direction.

Everyone thought that the Republicans would save them from the wimpy and spendy Democrats so we voted in Republicans to both houses of Congress and the Presidency and… nothing changed, so we gave the Democrats control of Congress and… nothing changed.

Ron Paul has no chance to win, but he’s earned our votes anyway and we have nothing to lose.

What the fuck are you all talking about? Aren’t you Paul supporters caving in early? Where is the George Washington’s spirit in you? Did George Washington cave in when he was getting the shit kicked out of him by the British? Did you know that he was so distraught; he was outmanned and couldn’t even pay his men? He was sobbing in his tent. You pseudo Paul supporters are caving in. I thought this was a REVOLUTION not a gathering of thumb suckers. Certainly, Obama is charismatic. He is anti war but takes money from special interest. Do you think this country will make a black man the President even though his mitochondrial DNA is from a white woman? The American Spirit has been lost. Revolution. Give me a break. Make some phone calls, canvas, become a precinct captain! You are all talk no action.

Ron Paul supporters, you need to start thinking about the future of our country. Regardless of how many blimps you put in the air, Ron Paul will not get enough votes in November to become our next president. That was not completely evident four months ago, when I myself was caught up in the wonder that is Ron Paul, but it is now. The primaries DO NOT lie. Anyone who thinks that RP has a better chance of WINNING in our Lowest Common Denominator country is living in a fantasy world…

We have been sitting on our asses, plugged into the interweb for the last EIGHT years complaining about how bad things are… how unrepresented WE are… how our constitutional rights are constantly being flushed down the toilet.

What is going to change that? How can you secure the best possible outcome in November?

It is time to stop bitching and start thinking. Voting RP in the primaries and getting out the word for Tuesday is AWESOME because you’re raising awareness and letting politicians know that there are a good deal of Americans who still believe in the Constitution.

When the endorsement goes to McCain and RP runs as a third party, it’s time to jump ship. You’re not giving up or compromising your beliefs or values. You’re BEING SMART. Obama winning is going to be an uphill battle when it comes to the gun-toting war mongering Walmart generation… Every one of their votes counts as much as yours. If you vote for RP in that situation, you’re voting AGAINST Obama.

And if McCain FUCKING wins because of you ignorant FUCKS, I will get my own blimp and fly it around the country denouncing your idiotic decision.

Come on, throw it at me… But if you look at history, third parties have played spoilers SEVERAL times because people chose to their pride over plain logic.

DO NOT KID YOURSELF. In the end, either McCain or Obama (or Hillary) will be elected. Either you’ll be active in compromising and choosing the BEST option for our country or you’ll throw us to the dogs…

Your choice.

Well, I may switch from supporting RP, but it won’t be to the Democratic ticket. I don’t support universal healthcare, bigger government or any of the Demo immigration plans.

And I like my 2nd amendment rights thank you very much. So, while the remaining GOP candidates are not even close to my ideals, I will support one of them just so I can attempt to stave off the universal healthcare nightmare and the revocation of my right to bear arms.

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I am an Obama supporter, but I think those that support Ron Paul should vote for him still. I voted for Nader the last two elections and to this day I believe I made the right decision. I didn’t actually vote here in Florida because: 1. I didn’t register as a Democrat in time (or at all for that matter) 2. If I was registered as a Democrat it would not have mattered because Florida Dem vote aren’t counted do to our state acting like spoiled children who will do anything for attention.

I think that it will be Obama/Kennedy, not Edwards.

When do we, as Paul supportersm Switch to Obama?

-Never?

the good news guys is florida is a winner take all delegates state so it wouldnt have mattered if paul got secong or third.he knows this its part of his strategy. not to mention paul shoulda had first in loisiana so why doesnt someone do something to make sure all the provisional ballots get counted and keep supporting. obamas got enough support to beat hilary anyway.

If you truly share Ron Paul’s values then you can not switch to Obama. They are ideologically different candidates. By switching to a candidate that doesn’t share your views you are simply perpetuating the failure of the two party system and allowing the thought that the lesser of two evils is the best choice when your own candidate of choice appears to be losing ground.

UMM… Daniel, were you coerced into posting this? To date, there are still over 1000 delegates to be disbursed. And, so far, the Primaries have been concentrated on the East Coast, and small Midwest states, in total, account for less than 10% of the nation. It takes time to overcome media bias, and get the message out to those who would otherwise not hear it. Principals, my friend, and steadfast conviction, should be your compass. Do you really want to look back at your life and question, “Did I do what was right, or did I do what was easiest?”. Ron Paul supporters are a new breed of diversity, and this is what he is espousing to us; We need to take the direction of our futures into our own hands. Choosing anyone over your own principals, is exactly what the machine wants you to do. It shows them the people really are sheep ready for slaughter. Hold fast. Use this momentary lapse of reason to energize you. Be a better citizen, and vote your heart. I know you will. Ron Paul will not alienate us, we have to choose to be alienated on our own.

now is that time Obama 08

Ron Paul has my vote in the primary. Support him until all of the delegates’ votes have been counted.

This isn’t just about trying to elect Ron Paul in ’08. It is about changing this country for the better. Less government. Less government control. Protection of our liberties. We must continue to support him to keep the conversation going: why preemptive war is bad, why borrowing money from China is bad, why we should protect individual rights…

If I have to, I will vote for Obama in Nov. But, I will write my own name in if it comes down to Clinton and McCain.

Every empire falls, it’s now just a matter of timing of those with military power to overtake us. We are the weakest we have ever been. We won’t be destroyed, we owe too much. But, we will be brought down and soon. I hope they are nice….

How come nobody mentions Mike Gravel? He is also against the war and for the constitution. Thanks to him only, we don’t have a draft today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3gQfz8GC0o

It really doesn’t matter who you vote for in the long run. They will all take your money to bankrupt this country — the question is only how they will do it. Republicans will throw your money at war and education, the Democrats will throw it at welfare and environmentalism. People will continue to complain about how shitty things are and in four more years will forget all the stupid promises that were made this time around and believe them all over again, while beating their drums and repeating the mantra “change… change… change…”.

There is absolutely no reason that Ron Paul should be loosing. He is on a major platform, has raised enormous amounts of money, has gotten face time (maybe not as much as other candidates, but still) on major media programs, has been a Congressman for thirty years, etc. I can only conclude that people who do not vote for him either 1) don’t understand what liberty is really about, or 2) hate liberty and would rather be ruled by masters who promise gruel at the end of the day, because that is all we will end up on our present course, if we are so lucky.

Ayn Rand once said, and I’m paraphrasing, that living for yourself is the hardest thing you can do. And the reason it’s so hard is because you have to face the scary reality that you are responsible for your life — that your success and failures are your own — that you can’t plunder other people for your sustenance or punish them for your offenses by voting leaders into office to do it for you.

This election is ultimately about people who are scared to be responsible for their own education, their own relationships, their own wealth or poverty, their own safety, their own health, their own bodies, their own thoughts, and their own happiness or disappointment with life.

In other words, politically, Americans have Stockholm Syndrome.

How can one change his or her conscience? Ron Paul is the current embodiment of our ideals as free men in a fight against tyranny and oppression. There is no other candidate that supports that. There is no other candidate that seeks to abolish the enslavement of the American people by the Federal Reserve and remove us from the horrific consequences imposed upon our once great nation by the war mongering neocons and their CIA.

If we lose the battle for the Republican nomination, we fight again as independants. If we lose that, we should strive on for our ideals at the State level. Look at Texas and their struggle against the NAFTA superhighway, or Montana fighting Real ID. We can make a difference and we should never compromise.

The neocons will never give up and neither should we. I will only cast one vote this year for a new president and that vote is for my principles. If no candidate stands for that, then there is no reason to vote because it won’t matter.

January 30, 2008

We received this message this morning from a Ron Paul supporter in Florida. Because it is so important, we are sharing it with you, too.

I wanted to share my experience canvassing here in Broward County, South Florida.

As you know, Dr. Paul took 3% of the vote yesterday in Florida. A friend and I signed up on the campaign's website to be a precinct leader, and took it upon ourselves to canvass 13 precincts in Broward County. I'm proud to report that in the precincts that we canvassed, Dr. Paul came in second to John McCain.

That's right; Dr. Paul beat Romney, Giuliani and Huckabee. This happened with almost NO media coverage of Dr. Paul. It's particularly noteworthy, because Broward County is a stronghold of Rudy Giuliani.

We know of other Dr. Paul supporters in Broward County who were waving Dr. Paul's signs, but they did not do that well in their precincts. Sign waving does NOT get votes, BUT PRECINCT WORK DOES GET VOTES!!! Please do the precinct work in your area so that Dr. Paul will win. God Bless You.

Help us by signing up today to be a precinct leader in your area. If you really want to make Ron Paul our next president, sign up and begin canvassing right away. You’re counting on Ron Paul to do his part, and he’s counting on you to do yours.

This is work that any dedicated supporter can do, and, along with donating, is the most important thing you can do to ensure a Ron Paul victory.

Sign up yourself, and then encourage all your friends to sign up here: https://voters.ronpaul2008.com.

Daniel McCarthy Internet Communications Coordinator Ron Paul 2008

January 28, 2008

When I started this campaign more than a year ago, I was a somewhat reluctant candidate. I knew our message of freedom, peace, and prosperity was the right one for our country, but frankly, I didn’t know how many people today would have ears to hear it.

Well, did I learn a lesson! Millions of Americans understand what ails our country, and what is needed to fix it. So, with you at my side, I am in this effort to win. Not only by building the ideas of liberty, but by getting the nomination. Our opponents would call that nuts — you know, the advocates of more inflation, more spending, more taxes, more war. But let me explain why they are, as usual, all wet.

For one thing, for the first time since 1952, we are headed towards a brokered convention. Instead of a coronation of one of the establishment candidates, the delegates, influenced by the people, will decide. And I am afraid that this will take place in a time of heightened economic crisis. That means even more Americans will be ready to hear our message. But it also means I am really going to need your help.

One would never know this from the mainstream media, but we’ve only had a few primaries and caucuses, and even after the extremely important date of February 5th, we will still have more than half to go. And the Republican nominee will not be decided by the popular vote among the “leading candidates” in a few states also handpicked by the media. The nominee will be decided by the delegates. So let me tell you a little about our “under-the-radar” strategy to get those delegates.

On “Super Tuesday,” February 5th, there will be 22 primaries and caucuses. I have a hunch that we’re going to do very well. But, of course, the media and the rest of the establishment refuse to recognize that. It’s the attitude of the small child who covers his eyes to make something scary go away. But we are not going away.

While the media focus on the couple of states they claim are important, we’re competing everywhere. And the reason that we’re able to do that is because of your grassroots support. You all are an asset that no other campaign has: donors, and activists who want no special deals from the government, just the Constitution.

We’re competing very strongly in all the caucus states, and in all other states where delegates are up for grabs. And we’re going to keep picking up delegates. Our strategy’s already working.

And we’re committed to winning states. I have little doubt that if we can double our efforts in this coming week, we’re going to grab many delegates from other candidates. Then we’ll start getting ready for the biggest moment of all – the convention in September.

The path to the convention is twisty, however. When we were in Iowa, we got 10% of the vote. But no delegates were awarded that night. That’s because voters didn’t directly choose national convention delegates; they selected the county and state delegates who will make that decision. And if another candidate like Mike Huckabee is no longer in the race at the time of the state convention in June, his delegates are free to support whomever they want. If we work extra hard, we can convert them into delegates for our campaign!

A similar thing happened in Nevada. We won 14% of the straw poll vote that the media reported on, but what they didn’t tell you was that we may have gotten up to a third of Nevada’s delegates to their county conventions! I always laughed when I heard some people say Nevada didn’t matter. Nevada chooses more delegates to the national convention than South Carolina.

So, while the media will focus on the results from Florida, and probably take down the campaign of my friend Rudy in the process, those results are less important to you and me. Let them fight in Florida while we bring our message to Americans in other areas, like the economically hard-hit state of Maine.

We want to win as many delegates to the Republican National Convention as possible, even if other campaigns don’t see some areas of the country as “important. But in this work, I need your help. Help me get many, many delegates to this historic convention, by these three methods.

1. Donate. Your generous contributions are essential if we’re going to keep going until September. We need, frankly $5 million by February 5 to run more TV and radio ads in the Super Tuesday states. Your help means everything: https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate.

2. Canvass. You can help us identify those who support our message in your precinct. You can help us to convert others, too. After all, your neighbors pay attention to you. I am going to visit as much of the country as I can, but I need you as my partner in your area: https://voters.ronpaul2008.com.

3. ASK others to sign-up on our website. I meet so many people on the campaign trail who don’t even receive my letters! I’ve told my campaign to make communication with you, the engine of all this, much better. But if people don’t sign up for my e-mails, that won’t happen. If you could just get one extra person to sign-up, that would be great. More would be tremendous.

Help me by forwarding this e-mail to every other Ron Paul supporter you know, and urging them to join our efforts! https://www.ronpaul2008.com/join.

We’ve come so far, but now the fun is really starting! I have a feeling the mainstream media will move from ignoring us to attacking us. But that will be a sign of our success. Join me as we continue this great movement into year two, and to a hot convention in Minneapolis-Saint Paul. We can do it!

Sincerely,

Ron

It’s important to keep supporting Dr. Paul at least through the end of the Republican primary, not because he has a chance of winning (that’s highly unlikely), but because the more delegates he gets at the convention, the more his ideas will be integrated into the Republican platform.

Third parties have huge influence, but not because they can be elected (actually, that’s probably a good thing, as it tends to drive 2 main parties towards mainstream central positions). They have influence because the only leverage available to mainstream candidates is in going after the uncommitted voters. Inveterate Demo/Repub voters require too much effort to realistically be drawn one way or another in one particular race (that requires several terms of stupidity).

I want to see the other candidates fight over Ron’s voters. If nothing else, it would be an entertaining circus.

I cannot, in good conscience, vote for anyone other than Dr. Paul.

i have been thinking about this for two weeks now, and ive pretty much decided to vote for obama in the primary, whether its voter fraud, or just uneducated sheep, it does not appear people have accepted RP’s message. Therefore, obama is the logical conclusion for an anti-war vote. (Gravel-noted, but aint gonna happen) It would be a grave mistake for this country to end up with McCain or Hillary. So im thinking Obama, he has a chance. Please boycott fox,abc,nbc, just watch PBS!, its all you need.

I will vote for Ron Paul regardless of whether he wins the primary or not. If he drops out, then I will vote for a third party, most likely libertarian.

I refuse to vote for Hilary or Obama, because neither offer real change.

I’m with Rory in line 6. NEVER!

i gave $60. to paul, even marched on new year’s eve, but there’s a point when you need reality. Florida had the blimp, and young ppl did not care, old ppl went out and voted for the old war-monger, or the (non lipstick lesbian) Bitch. Lets wake up. PPL only care about their football, jesus, world of warcraft, they are not ppl who read blogs, or have a brain, or understand deficit spending, or monetary policy. The masses will have to be on day two of starvation from flouridated water before the ideas of Ron Paul actually sink into their heads.

So figure it out fellow Paulians, it’s either Obama, or some load of crap that will destroy us all.