Obama on Healthcare

By Daniel Miessler on August 16th, 2009: Tagged as Politics
  • icepyro
    I have several problems with this video. So I will go in order as they appear in the video.
    For one, Obama is right. There is no silver bullet, quick fix, for anything. If there was this perfect solution, there would only be one country in the world. Obama wins the award for captain obvious. So what does this have to do with his plan? Nothing other than wanting us to listen as if he understands our problem and dismisses them right out.
    For two, where does he think we *are* going in healthcare? Does anyone really think one day Star Trek will become how we live? I like the show, but it is just that, a show. I don't see us getting there and I don't want to live there either.
    He is right. The system is broken. Our options are becoming limited. I feel, however, that the correct terms are that our options to have a state paid for plan are becoming limited. No one wants to acknowledge the cost in taxes we pay for a broken system and no one wants to acknowledge that there are solutions that don't involve the government tit. But as Obama said, "But that doesn't make sense".
    I don't know where he gets his numbers for how much we will pay over someone in a foreign country, but I strongly doubt it was an unbiased research. Even so, some countries pay upwards of 60% of their income in taxes while we average 40%, so is 20% difference really equate to a couple thousand more? Nope.
    Now I do agree that if we could get the inflation of medical cost to just match the inflation of other things, the problem would be solved. I just disagree with the delivery. I think of WE as the American people, and not the federal government.
    I do not think the biggest driver of our deficit and debt is healthcare. I strongly feel that it may be throwing money at problems (i.e. bailouts) or perhaps its the DoD (how much do we spend in Iraq each day? Do you really feel that is less than how much grandma's hip replacement cost?

    Now I also disagree with his use of current trends. Current trends cannot hold true. We are not paying $7/gallon for gas are we? But that was the trend at one time. Insurance companies cannot afford to lose 14000 a day forever. Eventually they run out of people, will have to suck up their losses and start over with a new strategy to get customers.
    The only reason this has outlasted the gas price thing is probably because people are willing to pay more for their health than for their cars.
    Do I have a solution? No, I don't. Do we need to do something about the current situation? Yes, we do. Obama is right that the deficit will get worse eventually.
    I just really think if we continue to throw money we don't have at the problem, if we continue to rely on the government to fix the problems that we the people can, but refuse to, help fix (and that we did help create), if we continue down this road, then we will be making Obama correct when he says that the biggest contributor to our debt and deficit is medicaid/medicare.
    The sad part is I think we can mark his words because all of the options I have seen any part of do lead there and any suggestion from him will also.
  • cooperati
    "I find it rather telling when opposition gets eerily silent when asked simple questions about justifying their beliefs."

    To break the ice, we use a chisel and a hammer.

    -=T=-
  • CarlM
    Curiously few takers here. (Sound of crickets chirping in the background.)
  • Yeah, strange.
  • CarlM
    I find it rather telling when opposition gets eerily silent when asked simple questions about justifying their beliefs. Guys, if you want debate, here's a platform for you. No distractions of hyperbole in the question being asked. Just a simple quiet question. I'm as curious about the answer as Daniel is.
  • CarlM
    Much better. :)
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