My Vote For the Meaning of Life is the Simulation Model

By Daniel Miessler on December 21st, 2008: Tagged as Philosophy
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    If mathematics can formulate a perfected model of the entire universe and indeed other possible universes, I ask, “Why do we need a creator other than the math?” (I mean mathematics here in a very broad sense. I include things we do not yet understand or may never be capable of understanding, yet could theoretically still be explained mathematically given enough time and computational power)

    Starting with an example, a sine wave’s graph is a visual representation of a function. For an extremely complicated function, one could imagine a “graph” that was an observational representation of that function, rather than just graphical. Such a function could even include, in-itself, representations of observer and observed. Similar to a video-game created with first-person perspective.

    A mathematical truth is true regardless of physical observation or quantization. Therefore the “beginning” of time was no time at all, but rather the instantaneous realization of a universal observational representation of a function.

    Time comes into play only once that function spawns an observer. Currently we say the universe is some large number of years old, but is it accurate to say that time passed absent of observation? The current measurement of the universe’s age implies that there was some prime observer watching it take place, measuring the time it took.

    Suffice to say, I like your thinking on multiple universes based on tweaking certain laws or variables, but I disagree that it implies a creator doing the tweaking. (I realize you were not arguing a hard-creationist type stance and I’m not being argumentative here, that isn’t my point)

    Rather it is something like a wide assortment of a class of mathematical functions that are observational representations of themselves, rather than graphical. This assortment exists on its own because of the fundamental nature of the mathematical truth property. By mathematical truth property I mean that if the function(s) doesn’t contradict itself or contain paradox of some kind in its working, it is true in a universal sense. We are the observers of one of these such functions.

    There is a sort of anthropic principle at work also to further elaborate on ‘why’ we are part of one of these functions. It is simply because the math worked out that way. The math may also produce a myriad of non-observational functions or sort of “failed universes” and it may indeed produce other observational functions vastly different from ours.

    I have previously written about how Godel’s Incompleteness Theorem helps explain my meaning here. Our universe is contained within an axiomatic structure of physical laws and other principles, but there are other axiomatic structures that are unlinked to ours or outside the ability of our universe’s math to reach.


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