Language: Hackers and Hacking

By Daniel Miessler on August 9th, 2005: Tagged as Culture | Language | Programming
  • nzlemming

    Anyone who calls themselves a hacker would look awfully silly, IMHO. I’ve always thought of it as a term of respect as applied to other people, rather than a job title. That said, the guy hacking Perl to produce a calander is as much a hacker as Linus or RMS – it’s the act of creating something that’s important. Developing all your tools from scratch may qualify you for some kind of uber-hackerdom, but we all use tools made by somebody else, including the keyboard I’m typing on.

    And I’d bet that Linus would never call someone sade for creating an app, unless the app sucked the big kumara. ;-)

  • nzlemming

    Anyone who calls themselves a hacker would look awfully silly, IMHO. I’ve always thought of it as a term of respect as applied to other people, rather than a job title. That said, the guy hacking Perl to produce a calander is as much a hacker as Linus or RMS – it’s the act of creating something that’s important. Developing all your tools from scratch may qualify you for some kind of uber-hackerdom, but we all use tools made by somebody else, including the keyboard I’m typing on.

    And I’d bet that Linus would never call someone sade for creating an app, unless the app sucked the big kumara. ;-)

  • nzlemming

    gah! /sade sad And your anti-robot mechanism is sad, by the above definition, BTW

  • nzlemming

    gah! /sade sad And your anti-robot mechanism is sad, by the above definition, BTW

  • http://www.dmiessler.com/ daniel

    lol

    Yeah, I’ve lost a few posts at the hands of this system as well, but the alternative is dealing with blog spam. Bad mojo.

    But yeah, I agree about the self-naming thing — I think the right thing to do if asked if you’re a hacker is to say no and give some examples of the heavyweights. It’s like being asked if you’re cool. You don’t say yes unless you’re not cool. :)

  • http://www.dmiessler.com daniel

    lol

    Yeah, I’ve lost a few posts at the hands of this system as well, but the alternative is dealing with blog spam. Bad mojo.

    But yeah, I agree about the self-naming thing — I think the right thing to do if asked if you’re a hacker is to say no and give some examples of the heavyweights. It’s like being asked if you’re cool. You don’t say yes unless you’re not cool. :)

  • nzlemming

    Then again, if you’re really cool, no-one has to ask :-D

  • nzlemming

    Then again, if you’re really cool, no-one has to ask :-D

  • Darby Weaver

    Interesting concepts?

    Funny most people I know don’t call themselves by any such name.

    Instead merely “brother” will do nicely.

    :)

    But then what would I know.

    I’m not a real coder and I only play with scripts when I have to…

    Though I have grown a little fond of TCL and Expect and I do use some Perls from time to time…

    Perhaps, I think the term best descibes a “state of mind” in an ethereal surrounding…

    No I do not mean the Sniffer formerly known by the same name or a cable…

    And if you have to ask, then you will never understand…

    Peace…

  • Darby Weaver

    Interesting concepts?

    Funny most people I know don’t call themselves by any such name.

    Instead merely “brother” will do nicely.

    :)

    But then what would I know.

    I’m not a real coder and I only play with scripts when I have to…

    Though I have grown a little fond of TCL and Expect and I do use some Perls from time to time…

    Perhaps, I think the term best descibes a “state of mind” in an ethereal surrounding…

    No I do not mean the Sniffer formerly known by the same name or a cable…

    And if you have to ask, then you will never understand…

    Peace…

  • http://dmissleer.com/ hacker_103

    yea i think a hacke is suppose to be able 2 hack into eamails,private websites and also help the goverment should be consider a wite hat hacker or as a black hat hacker…:)

  • http://dmissleer.com hacker_103

    yea i think a hacke is suppose to be able 2 hack into eamails,private websites and also help the goverment should be consider a wite hat hacker or as a black hat hacker…:)

  • http://metre.com/ Verbal7

    as being to hack the TCL u should not take so much control because u can be seen..:(

  • http://metre.com Verbal7

    as being to hack the TCL u should not take so much control because u can be seen..:(

  • http://acta.tracs.co.nz/ nzlemming

    Actually, Real Hackers(tm) can spell.

  • http://acta.tracs.co.nz nzlemming

    Actually, Real Hackers(tm) can spell.


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