Iran is Bad, Pakistan is Good

By Daniel Miessler on November 3rd, 2007: Tagged as Philosophy | Politics
  • Matt

    Sure. Anyone who thinks our military actions have to do with ideologies (e.g. spreading freedom and democracy) instead of economic and political maneuvering are misinformed. I’m sure the soldiers themselves feel they are fighting for a good cause and the ends justify the means but the men in charge have a specific agenda in mind.

  • Matt

    Sure. Anyone who thinks our military actions have to do with ideologies (e.g. spreading freedom and democracy) instead of economic and political maneuvering are misinformed. I’m sure the soldiers themselves feel they are fighting for a good cause and the ends justify the means but the men in charge have a specific agenda in mind.

  • Matt

    Sure. Anyone who thinks our military actions have to do with ideologies (e.g. spreading freedom and democracy) instead of economic and political maneuvering are misinformed. I’m sure the soldiers themselves feel they are fighting for a good cause and the ends justify the means but the men in charge have a specific agenda in mind.

  • Matt

    Sure. Anyone who thinks our military actions have to do with ideologies (e.g. spreading freedom and democracy) instead of economic and political maneuvering are misinformed. I’m sure the soldiers themselves feel they are fighting for a good cause and the ends justify the means but the men in charge have a specific agenda in mind.

  • http://maxolasersquad.com/ Maxo

    It’s the same with Venezuela. Ask most people why they don’t like Venezuela and they’ll list things such as how they think Chavez is taking advantage of the poor, no freedom of the press, etc. Legitimate concerns, but when they stack up against countries like China and Russia and others that we are all cozy with (or kind of cozy with in some situations) there is no reason for the average American to spend any more time thinking or caring about Venezuela than they do any other South American country.

  • http://maxolasersquad.com/ Maxo

    It’s the same with Venezuela. Ask most people why they don’t like Venezuela and they’ll list things such as how they think Chavez is taking advantage of the poor, no freedom of the press, etc. Legitimate concerns, but when they stack up against countries like China and Russia and others that we are all cozy with (or kind of cozy with in some situations) there is no reason for the average American to spend any more time thinking or caring about Venezuela than they do any other South American country.

  • http://maxolasersquad.com/ Maxo

    It’s the same with Venezuela. Ask most people why they don’t like Venezuela and they’ll list things such as how they think Chavez is taking advantage of the poor, no freedom of the press, etc. Legitimate concerns, but when they stack up against countries like China and Russia and others that we are all cozy with (or kind of cozy with in some situations) there is no reason for the average American to spend any more time thinking or caring about Venezuela than they do any other South American country.

  • http://jonsnetwork.com/ JR

    Pakistan is the most dangerous place on earth. We are supporting Musharraf, who in turn suppresses most of the various ethnic groups in Pakistan. These groups now the US government supports Musharraf in hunting the “terrorists” and naturally develop a hatred for the US government. When Musharraf is overthrown, there will be more chaos than we now see in Iraq.

    Here is how I look at Iran: How many ships and soldiers do they have in Chesapeake Bay? How many ships and soldiers do we have in the Persian Gulf? That explains everything in the Middle East if you ask me.

  • http://jonsnetwork.com/ JR

    Pakistan is the most dangerous place on earth. We are supporting Musharraf, who in turn suppresses most of the various ethnic groups in Pakistan. These groups now the US government supports Musharraf in hunting the “terrorists” and naturally develop a hatred for the US government. When Musharraf is overthrown, there will be more chaos than we now see in Iraq.

    Here is how I look at Iran: How many ships and soldiers do they have in Chesapeake Bay? How many ships and soldiers do we have in the Persian Gulf? That explains everything in the Middle East if you ask me.

  • http://jonsnetwork.com/ JR

    Pakistan is the most dangerous place on earth. We are supporting Musharraf, who in turn suppresses most of the various ethnic groups in Pakistan. These groups now the US government supports Musharraf in hunting the “terrorists” and naturally develop a hatred for the US government. When Musharraf is overthrown, there will be more chaos than we now see in Iraq.

    Here is how I look at Iran: How many ships and soldiers do they have in Chesapeake Bay? How many ships and soldiers do we have in the Persian Gulf? That explains everything in the Middle East if you ask me.

  • http://jonsnetwork.com JR

    Pakistan is the most dangerous place on earth. We are supporting Musharraf, who in turn suppresses most of the various ethnic groups in Pakistan. These groups now the US government supports Musharraf in hunting the “terrorists” and naturally develop a hatred for the US government. When Musharraf is overthrown, there will be more chaos than we now see in Iraq.

    Here is how I look at Iran: How many ships and soldiers do they have in Chesapeake Bay? How many ships and soldiers do we have in the Persian Gulf? That explains everything in the Middle East if you ask me.

  • http://www.cybermusings.blogspot.com/ Iqbal Latif

    Pakistan as you all are totally missing has been a consistent ally of the United States, the first is the opening of China, the present economic miracle of ‘global growth and prosperity’ is the result of opening of China and India. USA has been the biggest benefactor of Chinese low cost imports plus Chinese ability to recycle the capital by keeping a huge amount if its surpluses in treasury bills, one country that made it possible was Pakistan..

    Today’s multiple oasis of economic stability within the global economy are the result of forward looking inclusive foresight that had very modest beginning but significant impact on the ge nerations of today, many of us do not realise that on October 5, 1970 In a Time magazine interview, President Nixon states, “If there is anything I want to do before I die, it is to go to China.”

    October 25, 1970 President Nixon asks Pakistani President Yahya Khan to pass on a secret proposal to China : the U.S. wants to conduct high-level talks in Beijing , and promises it won’t enter into any anti-China alliance with the U.S.S.R.

    November 10, 1970 Yahya Khan passes on Nixon’s proposal to Chou En-lai. After conferring with Mao Tse-tung, Chou tells Yahya Khan: “We welcome the proposal from Washington for face-to-face discussions.We would be glad to receive a high-level person for this purpose, to discuss the withdrawal of American forces from Taiwan .” A few weeks later Yahya Khan tells his foreign secretary Sultan Muhammed Khan of Chou’s reply, and hands off planning to Sultan Khan.

    April 6, 1971 The U.S. Ping-Pong team, in Japan for the 31st World Table Tennis Championship, receives a surprise invitation from their Chinese colleagues for an all-expense paid visit to the P.R.C.. Time magazine calls the overture “the ping heard round the world.”

    April 30, 1971 Life magazine publishes a December 18, 1970 interview with Mao Tse-tung, in which the Chairman welcomes Nixon to come to China for talks, “either as a tourist or as President.”

    July 9, 1971 Feigning illness during a trip to Pakistan for talks with President Yahya Khan, Henry Kissinger takes a secret 4 a.m. flight to China .

    February 21-27, 1972 President and Mrs. Nixon arrive in Beijing for a eight-day visit filled with official meetings, sightseeing and cultural events. On the first day, Nixon and Kissinger meet with Chou En-lai and Mao Tse-tung. That evening, the entire presidential party attends an official welcome banquet hosted by Chou En-lai in the Great Hall of the People.

    February 27, 1972 Shanghai Communiqué, issued jointly by U.S. and China , pledges both countries to work for “normalization” of relations. In it, the U.S. acknowledges that there is only one China and that Taiwan is part of China , and agrees to withdraw its military forces from the island.

    January 27, 1973 Peace Accords signed in Paris , calling for cease-fire in Vietnam War.

    February 22, 1973 Following Kissinger’s five-day visit to Beijing , the U.S. and China announce their agreement to establish “liaison offices” in each other’s capitals.

    April 10, 1974 In a major address to the U.N. General Assembly, Chinese Vice Premier Deng Xiaoping outlines a new, more moderate Chinese foreign policy.

    And the rest is history…

  • http://www.cybermusings.blogspot.com/ Iqbal Latif

    Pakistan as you all are totally missing has been a consistent ally of the United States, the first is the opening of China, the present economic miracle of ‘global growth and prosperity’ is the result of opening of China and India. USA has been the biggest benefactor of Chinese low cost imports plus Chinese ability to recycle the capital by keeping a huge amount if its surpluses in treasury bills, one country that made it possible was Pakistan..

    Today’s multiple oasis of economic stability within the global economy are the result of forward looking inclusive foresight that had very modest beginning but significant impact on the ge nerations of today, many of us do not realise that on October 5, 1970 In a Time magazine interview, President Nixon states, “If there is anything I want to do before I die, it is to go to China.”

    October 25, 1970 President Nixon asks Pakistani President Yahya Khan to pass on a secret proposal to China : the U.S. wants to conduct high-level talks in Beijing , and promises it won’t enter into any anti-China alliance with the U.S.S.R.

    November 10, 1970 Yahya Khan passes on Nixon’s proposal to Chou En-lai. After conferring with Mao Tse-tung, Chou tells Yahya Khan: “We welcome the proposal from Washington for face-to-face discussions.We would be glad to receive a high-level person for this purpose, to discuss the withdrawal of American forces from Taiwan .” A few weeks later Yahya Khan tells his foreign secretary Sultan Muhammed Khan of Chou’s reply, and hands off planning to Sultan Khan.

    April 6, 1971 The U.S. Ping-Pong team, in Japan for the 31st World Table Tennis Championship, receives a surprise invitation from their Chinese colleagues for an all-expense paid visit to the P.R.C.. Time magazine calls the overture “the ping heard round the world.”

    April 30, 1971 Life magazine publishes a December 18, 1970 interview with Mao Tse-tung, in which the Chairman welcomes Nixon to come to China for talks, “either as a tourist or as President.”

    July 9, 1971 Feigning illness during a trip to Pakistan for talks with President Yahya Khan, Henry Kissinger takes a secret 4 a.m. flight to China .

    February 21-27, 1972 President and Mrs. Nixon arrive in Beijing for a eight-day visit filled with official meetings, sightseeing and cultural events. On the first day, Nixon and Kissinger meet with Chou En-lai and Mao Tse-tung. That evening, the entire presidential party attends an official welcome banquet hosted by Chou En-lai in the Great Hall of the People.

    February 27, 1972 Shanghai Communiqué, issued jointly by U.S. and China , pledges both countries to work for “normalization” of relations. In it, the U.S. acknowledges that there is only one China and that Taiwan is part of China , and agrees to withdraw its military forces from the island.

    January 27, 1973 Peace Accords signed in Paris , calling for cease-fire in Vietnam War.

    February 22, 1973 Following Kissinger’s five-day visit to Beijing , the U.S. and China announce their agreement to establish “liaison offices” in each other’s capitals.

    April 10, 1974 In a major address to the U.N. General Assembly, Chinese Vice Premier Deng Xiaoping outlines a new, more moderate Chinese foreign policy.

    And the rest is history…

  • http://www.cybermusings.blogspot.com Iqbal Latif

    Pakistan as you all are totally missing has been a consistent ally of the United States, the first is the opening of China, the present economic miracle of ‘global growth and prosperity’ is the result of opening of China and India. USA has been the biggest benefactor of Chinese low cost imports plus Chinese ability to recycle the capital by keeping a huge amount if its surpluses in treasury bills, one country that made it possible was Pakistan..

    Today’s multiple oasis of economic stability within the global economy are the result of forward looking inclusive foresight that had very modest beginning but significant impact on the ge nerations of today, many of us do not realise that on October 5, 1970 In a Time magazine interview, President Nixon states, “If there is anything I want to do before I die, it is to go to China.”

    October 25, 1970 President Nixon asks Pakistani President Yahya Khan to pass on a secret proposal to China : the U.S. wants to conduct high-level talks in Beijing , and promises it won’t enter into any anti-China alliance with the U.S.S.R.

    November 10, 1970 Yahya Khan passes on Nixon’s proposal to Chou En-lai. After conferring with Mao Tse-tung, Chou tells Yahya Khan: “We welcome the proposal from Washington for face-to-face discussions.We would be glad to receive a high-level person for this purpose, to discuss the withdrawal of American forces from Taiwan .” A few weeks later Yahya Khan tells his foreign secretary Sultan Muhammed Khan of Chou’s reply, and hands off planning to Sultan Khan.

    April 6, 1971 The U.S. Ping-Pong team, in Japan for the 31st World Table Tennis Championship, receives a surprise invitation from their Chinese colleagues for an all-expense paid visit to the P.R.C.. Time magazine calls the overture “the ping heard round the world.”

    April 30, 1971 Life magazine publishes a December 18, 1970 interview with Mao Tse-tung, in which the Chairman welcomes Nixon to come to China for talks, “either as a tourist or as President.”

    July 9, 1971 Feigning illness during a trip to Pakistan for talks with President Yahya Khan, Henry Kissinger takes a secret 4 a.m. flight to China .

    February 21-27, 1972 President and Mrs. Nixon arrive in Beijing for a eight-day visit filled with official meetings, sightseeing and cultural events. On the first day, Nixon and Kissinger meet with Chou En-lai and Mao Tse-tung. That evening, the entire presidential party attends an official welcome banquet hosted by Chou En-lai in the Great Hall of the People.

    February 27, 1972 Shanghai Communiqué, issued jointly by U.S. and China , pledges both countries to work for “normalization” of relations. In it, the U.S. acknowledges that there is only one China and that Taiwan is part of China , and agrees to withdraw its military forces from the island.

    January 27, 1973 Peace Accords signed in Paris , calling for cease-fire in Vietnam War.

    February 22, 1973 Following Kissinger’s five-day visit to Beijing , the U.S. and China announce their agreement to establish “liaison offices” in each other’s capitals.

    April 10, 1974 In a major address to the U.N. General Assembly, Chinese Vice Premier Deng Xiaoping outlines a new, more moderate Chinese foreign policy.

    And the rest is history…


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