Comments on: Indulgence as God http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god grep understanding Fri, 25 May 2012 02:15:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jonathan Stray http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-166675 Jonathan Stray Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:56:22 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-166675 <p>"Existence itself may be considered an abyss possessed of no meaning. I do not read this as a pessimistic statement. If it be true, then I can see in it nothing else but a declaration of autonomy for my imagination & will– & for the most beautiful act they can conceive with which to bestow meaning upon existence."</p> <ul> <li>Hakim Bey, "Against The Reproduction of Death"</li> </ul> “Existence itself may be considered an abyss possessed of no meaning. I do not read this as a pessimistic statement. If it be true, then I can see in it nothing else but a declaration of autonomy for my imagination & will– & for the most beautiful act they can conceive with which to bestow meaning upon existence.”

  • Hakim Bey, “Against The Reproduction of Death”
]]> By: Jonathan Stray http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-252417 Jonathan Stray Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:56:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-252417 <p>"Existence itself may be considered an abyss possessed of no meaning. I do not read this as a pessimistic statement. If it be true, then I can see in it nothing else but a declaration of autonomy for my imagination & will– & for the most beautiful act they can conceive with which to bestow meaning upon existence."</p> <ul> <li>Hakim Bey, "Against The Reproduction of Death"</li> </ul> “Existence itself may be considered an abyss possessed of no meaning. I do not read this as a pessimistic statement. If it be true, then I can see in it nothing else but a declaration of autonomy for my imagination & will– & for the most beautiful act they can conceive with which to bestow meaning upon existence.”

  • Hakim Bey, “Against The Reproduction of Death”
]]> By: alex http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-166406 alex Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:45:20 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-166406 <p>"Not that this is new, but perhaps the happiest are those who are not looking for real answers. Not just ignorance, but willful ignorance. Realizing that the higher pursuits are merely diluted versions of the lower ones, and that those are where the fun is."</p> <p>i realized this exact point a few years back. while i consider myself to be quite intelligent, i chose to live a simple life and go with the flow because it's easier and more fun that way.</p> <p>"Life might not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance."</p> “Not that this is new, but perhaps the happiest are those who are not looking for real answers. Not just ignorance, but willful ignorance. Realizing that the higher pursuits are merely diluted versions of the lower ones, and that those are where the fun is.”

i realized this exact point a few years back. while i consider myself to be quite intelligent, i chose to live a simple life and go with the flow because it’s easier and more fun that way.

“Life might not be the party we hoped for, but while we’re here we might as well dance.”

]]> By: alex http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-252416 alex Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:45:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-252416 <p>"Not that this is new, but perhaps the happiest are those who are not looking for real answers. Not just ignorance, but willful ignorance. Realizing that the higher pursuits are merely diluted versions of the lower ones, and that those are where the fun is."</p> <p>i realized this exact point a few years back. while i consider myself to be quite intelligent, i chose to live a simple life and go with the flow because it's easier and more fun that way.</p> <p>"Life might not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance."</p> “Not that this is new, but perhaps the happiest are those who are not looking for real answers. Not just ignorance, but willful ignorance. Realizing that the higher pursuits are merely diluted versions of the lower ones, and that those are where the fun is.”

i realized this exact point a few years back. while i consider myself to be quite intelligent, i chose to live a simple life and go with the flow because it’s easier and more fun that way.

“Life might not be the party we hoped for, but while we’re here we might as well dance.”

]]> By: Michael S Black http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-166376 Michael S Black Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:10:22 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-166376 <p>Make your own reality and find solace, if not, go crazy....Both are equally attractive, and may even be the same thing :)</p> Make your own reality and find solace, if not, go crazy….Both are equally attractive, and may even be the same thing :)

]]> By: Michael S Black http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-252415 Michael S Black Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:10:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-252415 <p>Make your own reality and find solace, if not, go crazy....Both are equally attractive, and may even be the same thing :)</p> Make your own reality and find solace, if not, go crazy….Both are equally attractive, and may even be the same thing :)

]]> By: Steven G. Harms http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-166316 Steven G. Harms Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:44:07 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-166316 <p>Slightly less religulous:</p> <p>http://www.swarthmore.edu/~apreset1/docs/if.html</p> Slightly less religulous:

http://www.swarthmore.edu/~apreset1/docs/if.html

]]> By: Steven G. Harms http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-252414 Steven G. Harms Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:44:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-252414 <p>Slightly less religulous:</p> <p>http://www.swarthmore.edu/~apreset1/docs/if.html</p> Slightly less religulous:

http://www.swarthmore.edu/~apreset1/docs/if.html

]]> By: Steven G. Harms http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-166315 Steven G. Harms Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:43:03 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-166315 <p>http://www.terrybisson.com/meat.html</p> http://www.terrybisson.com/meat.html

]]> By: Steven G. Harms http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-252413 Steven G. Harms Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:43:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-252413 <p>http://www.terrybisson.com/meat.html</p> http://www.terrybisson.com/meat.html

]]> By: Brooks Garrett http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-166308 Brooks Garrett Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:28:31 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-166308 <p>Try this idea on for size. Assumptions: 1) Humans are logical beings by nature 2) Through a series of biological interactions we are capable of reason 3) Our emotions are controlled through chemical injections within the brain</p> <p>Theory: Because humans are logical and use reason (even if it only makes sense to that one human), we place weights and values on everything we interact with. (Inputs Outputs). These weights are used to evaluate our success, and indirectly our level of pleasure derived from our interactions.</p> <p>It is not true that every human enjoys sex equally. There are powerful board members that derive pleasure from having power over others more than sex. </p> <p>From this we can postulate that a human receives pleasure proportional to the utility the activity has in achieving some goal. </p> <p>"Control is an illusion, you infantile egomaniac. Nobody knows what's gonna happen next: not on a freeway, not in an airplane, not inside our own bodies and certainly not on a racetrack with 40 other infantile egomaniacs."</p> Try this idea on for size. Assumptions: 1) Humans are logical beings by nature 2) Through a series of biological interactions we are capable of reason 3) Our emotions are controlled through chemical injections within the brain

Theory: Because humans are logical and use reason (even if it only makes sense to that one human), we place weights and values on everything we interact with. (Inputs Outputs). These weights are used to evaluate our success, and indirectly our level of pleasure derived from our interactions.

It is not true that every human enjoys sex equally. There are powerful board members that derive pleasure from having power over others more than sex.

From this we can postulate that a human receives pleasure proportional to the utility the activity has in achieving some goal.

“Control is an illusion, you infantile egomaniac. Nobody knows what’s gonna happen next: not on a freeway, not in an airplane, not inside our own bodies and certainly not on a racetrack with 40 other infantile egomaniacs.”

]]> By: Brooks Garrett http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-252412 Brooks Garrett Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:28:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-252412 <p>Try this idea on for size. Assumptions: 1) Humans are logical beings by nature 2) Through a series of biological interactions we are capable of reason 3) Our emotions are controlled through chemical injections within the brain</p> <p>Theory: Because humans are logical and use reason (even if it only makes sense to that one human), we place weights and values on everything we interact with. (Inputs Outputs). These weights are used to evaluate our success, and indirectly our level of pleasure derived from our interactions.</p> <p>It is not true that every human enjoys sex equally. There are powerful board members that derive pleasure from having power over others more than sex. </p> <p>From this we can postulate that a human receives pleasure proportional to the utility the activity has in achieving some goal. </p> <p>"Control is an illusion, you infantile egomaniac. Nobody knows what's gonna happen next: not on a freeway, not in an airplane, not inside our own bodies and certainly not on a racetrack with 40 other infantile egomaniacs."</p> Try this idea on for size. Assumptions: 1) Humans are logical beings by nature 2) Through a series of biological interactions we are capable of reason 3) Our emotions are controlled through chemical injections within the brain

Theory: Because humans are logical and use reason (even if it only makes sense to that one human), we place weights and values on everything we interact with. (Inputs Outputs). These weights are used to evaluate our success, and indirectly our level of pleasure derived from our interactions.

It is not true that every human enjoys sex equally. There are powerful board members that derive pleasure from having power over others more than sex.

From this we can postulate that a human receives pleasure proportional to the utility the activity has in achieving some goal.

“Control is an illusion, you infantile egomaniac. Nobody knows what’s gonna happen next: not on a freeway, not in an airplane, not inside our own bodies and certainly not on a racetrack with 40 other infantile egomaniacs.”

]]> By: Maxo http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-166304 Maxo Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:14:31 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-166304 <p>I know you are not a religious person, but when I get to feeling like this I like to read the beginning of Ecclesiastes. It is pretty much about the ultimate worthlessness of attempts to accomplish anything. </p> <p>http://kjv.biblebrowser.com/ecclesiastes/1-1.htm</p> <p>12 I the Preacher was king over Israel in Jerusalem.</p> <p>13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.</p> <p>14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.</p> <p>15 That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.</p> <p>16 I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.</p> <p>17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit. 18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.</p> I know you are not a religious person, but when I get to feeling like this I like to read the beginning of Ecclesiastes. It is pretty much about the ultimate worthlessness of attempts to accomplish anything.

http://kjv.biblebrowser.com/ecclesiastes/1-1.htm

12 I the Preacher was king over Israel in Jerusalem.

13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.

14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.

15 That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.

16 I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.

17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit. 18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

]]> By: Maxo http://danielmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god/comment-page-1#comment-252411 Maxo Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:14:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/indulgence-as-god#comment-252411 <p>I know you are not a religious person, but when I get to feeling like this I like to read the beginning of Ecclesiastes. It is pretty much about the ultimate worthlessness of attempts to accomplish anything. </p> <p>http://kjv.biblebrowser.com/ecclesiastes/1-1.htm</p> <p>12 I the Preacher was king over Israel in Jerusalem.</p> <p>13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.</p> <p>14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.</p> <p>15 That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.</p> <p>16 I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.</p> <p>17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit. 18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.</p> I know you are not a religious person, but when I get to feeling like this I like to read the beginning of Ecclesiastes. It is pretty much about the ultimate worthlessness of attempts to accomplish anything.

http://kjv.biblebrowser.com/ecclesiastes/1-1.htm

12 I the Preacher was king over Israel in Jerusalem.

13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.

14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.

15 That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.

16 I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.

17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit. 18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

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