Comments on: I’m With Ann Coulter on This One http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one grep understanding Fri, 25 May 2012 02:15:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Maxo http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-87467 Maxo Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:12:20 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-87467 <p>I agree with you on this Daniel. Cat Stevens got himself in similar hot water by stating facts of Islam. People didn't like those facts about the Islam religion, and in stead of people opening a conversation about Islam, attacked him for supporting violence. He rebuttled that he wasn't asking anyone to like or dislike what the Koran says, he was stating as a matter of fact what it does say, just like many parts of the Old Testament aren't exactly PC either, but nobody's attacking the Jews over it.</p> I agree with you on this Daniel. Cat Stevens got himself in similar hot water by stating facts of Islam. People didn’t like those facts about the Islam religion, and in stead of people opening a conversation about Islam, attacked him for supporting violence. He rebuttled that he wasn’t asking anyone to like or dislike what the Koran says, he was stating as a matter of fact what it does say, just like many parts of the Old Testament aren’t exactly PC either, but nobody’s attacking the Jews over it.

]]> By: Maxo http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-249622 Maxo Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:12:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-249622 <p>I agree with you on this Daniel. Cat Stevens got himself in similar hot water by stating facts of Islam. People didn't like those facts about the Islam religion, and in stead of people opening a conversation about Islam, attacked him for supporting violence. He rebuttled that he wasn't asking anyone to like or dislike what the Koran says, he was stating as a matter of fact what it does say, just like many parts of the Old Testament aren't exactly PC either, but nobody's attacking the Jews over it.</p> I agree with you on this Daniel. Cat Stevens got himself in similar hot water by stating facts of Islam. People didn’t like those facts about the Islam religion, and in stead of people opening a conversation about Islam, attacked him for supporting violence. He rebuttled that he wasn’t asking anyone to like or dislike what the Koran says, he was stating as a matter of fact what it does say, just like many parts of the Old Testament aren’t exactly PC either, but nobody’s attacking the Jews over it.

]]> By: Arik http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-87172 Arik Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:10:23 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-87172 <p>@Daniel</p> <p>So what? Do YOU come from the standpoint of Christianity?</p> <p>If you accept the "right" statements as true, you can have any standpoint you want. People arguing are explaining their own inner, subjective, truth. Does it matter?</p> <p>I thought you can at least see that both sides are true; in their own way.</p> <p>@DavidG</p> <p>FYI there is a concept of heaven and hell in Judaism, and it is actively used to intimidate people into becoming more religious. Jews are interested in the afterlife, and it is definitely a driving force.</p> <p>The difference is that Judaism isn't trying to convert non-Jews. But if you were born in the Jewish NATION, i.e. of Jewish lineage, you're considered as a member of the Jewish religion by Jews, regardless of what you choose to believe, and they will try with all their might to "convert" you to more orthodox Judaism. Oh boy will they ever. Very annoying.</p> <p>-- Arik</p> @Daniel

So what? Do YOU come from the standpoint of Christianity?

If you accept the “right” statements as true, you can have any standpoint you want. People arguing are explaining their own inner, subjective, truth. Does it matter?

I thought you can at least see that both sides are true; in their own way.

@DavidG

FYI there is a concept of heaven and hell in Judaism, and it is actively used to intimidate people into becoming more religious. Jews are interested in the afterlife, and it is definitely a driving force.

The difference is that Judaism isn’t trying to convert non-Jews. But if you were born in the Jewish NATION, i.e. of Jewish lineage, you’re considered as a member of the Jewish religion by Jews, regardless of what you choose to believe, and they will try with all their might to “convert” you to more orthodox Judaism. Oh boy will they ever. Very annoying.

– Arik

]]> By: Arik http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-249621 Arik Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:10:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-249621 <p>@Daniel</p> <p>So what? Do YOU come from the standpoint of Christianity?</p> <p>If you accept the "right" statements as true, you can have any standpoint you want. People arguing are explaining their own inner, subjective, truth. Does it matter?</p> <p>I thought you can at least see that both sides are true; in their own way.</p> <p>@DavidG</p> <p>FYI there is a concept of heaven and hell in Judaism, and it is actively used to intimidate people into becoming more religious. Jews are interested in the afterlife, and it is definitely a driving force.</p> <p>The difference is that Judaism isn't trying to convert non-Jews. But if you were born in the Jewish NATION, i.e. of Jewish lineage, you're considered as a member of the Jewish religion by Jews, regardless of what you choose to believe, and they will try with all their might to "convert" you to more orthodox Judaism. Oh boy will they ever. Very annoying.</p> <p>-- Arik</p> @Daniel

So what? Do YOU come from the standpoint of Christianity?

If you accept the “right” statements as true, you can have any standpoint you want. People arguing are explaining their own inner, subjective, truth. Does it matter?

I thought you can at least see that both sides are true; in their own way.

@DavidG

FYI there is a concept of heaven and hell in Judaism, and it is actively used to intimidate people into becoming more religious. Jews are interested in the afterlife, and it is definitely a driving force.

The difference is that Judaism isn’t trying to convert non-Jews. But if you were born in the Jewish NATION, i.e. of Jewish lineage, you’re considered as a member of the Jewish religion by Jews, regardless of what you choose to believe, and they will try with all their might to “convert” you to more orthodox Judaism. Oh boy will they ever. Very annoying.

– Arik

]]> By: DavidG http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-87125 DavidG Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:09:31 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-87125 <p>Putting aside the issue of what's acceptable for her to say, it's worth noting that Judaism is different from Christianity in that Judaism doesn't really concern itself much with non-Jews (except to say they aren't the "chosen people"). The same way Jews aren't really interested in what happens after death. What kind of religion tells people to spend all their time bugging non-believers and worrying about the afterlife? (Maybe one meant to spread and control?) I'd rather concern myself with my <em>own</em> beliefs and <em>this</em> life.</p> Putting aside the issue of what’s acceptable for her to say, it’s worth noting that Judaism is different from Christianity in that Judaism doesn’t really concern itself much with non-Jews (except to say they aren’t the “chosen people”). The same way Jews aren’t really interested in what happens after death. What kind of religion tells people to spend all their time bugging non-believers and worrying about the afterlife? (Maybe one meant to spread and control?) I’d rather concern myself with my own beliefs and this life.

]]> By: DavidG http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-249620 DavidG Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:09:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-249620 <p>Putting aside the issue of what's acceptable for her to say, it's worth noting that Judaism is different from Christianity in that Judaism doesn't really concern itself much with non-Jews (except to say they aren't the "chosen people"). The same way Jews aren't really interested in what happens after death. What kind of religion tells people to spend all their time bugging non-believers and worrying about the afterlife? (Maybe one meant to spread and control?) I'd rather concern myself with my <em>own</em> beliefs and <em>this</em> life.</p> Putting aside the issue of what’s acceptable for her to say, it’s worth noting that Judaism is different from Christianity in that Judaism doesn’t really concern itself much with non-Jews (except to say they aren’t the “chosen people”). The same way Jews aren’t really interested in what happens after death. What kind of religion tells people to spend all their time bugging non-believers and worrying about the afterlife? (Maybe one meant to spread and control?) I’d rather concern myself with my own beliefs and this life.

]]> By: Daniel Miessler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-87124 Daniel Miessler Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:04:15 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-87124 <p>@Arik</p> <p>If an idiot is going to be attacked, attack them for saying something stupid. There's plenty to pick from with her. What she said was completely legit if you're coming from the standpoint of a Christian.</p> @Arik

If an idiot is going to be attacked, attack them for saying something stupid. There’s plenty to pick from with her. What she said was completely legit if you’re coming from the standpoint of a Christian.

]]> By: Daniel Miessler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-249619 Daniel Miessler Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:04:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-249619 <p>@Arik</p> <p>If an idiot is going to be attacked, attack them for saying something stupid. There's plenty to pick from with her. What she said was completely legit if you're coming from the standpoint of a Christian.</p> @Arik

If an idiot is going to be attacked, attack them for saying something stupid. There’s plenty to pick from with her. What she said was completely legit if you’re coming from the standpoint of a Christian.

]]> By: Arik http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-87123 Arik Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:01:44 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-87123 <p>I wonder why you even care.</p> <p>-- Arik</p> I wonder why you even care.

– Arik

]]> By: Arik http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-249618 Arik Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:01:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-249618 <p>I wonder why you even care.</p> <p>-- Arik</p> I wonder why you even care.

– Arik

]]> By: aGorilla http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-87112 aGorilla Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:43:27 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-87112 <p>"I’m With Ann Coulter" Reminds me of a t-shirt...</p> “I’m With Ann Coulter” Reminds me of a t-shirt…

]]> By: aGorilla http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-249617 aGorilla Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:43:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-249617 <p>"I’m With Ann Coulter" Reminds me of a t-shirt...</p> “I’m With Ann Coulter” Reminds me of a t-shirt…

]]> By: Tico http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-87101 Tico Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:47:45 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-87101 <p>Perfect Christians...you must mean like the Priests who have been buggering altar boys for the past few centuries. The current evangelical form of Christianity is a crock and Jesus would want nothing to do with modern so-called "Christians". Leave the Jews alone, pry the boulder out of your own eye before you worry about the pebble in your neighbor's.</p> Perfect Christians…you must mean like the Priests who have been buggering altar boys for the past few centuries. The current evangelical form of Christianity is a crock and Jesus would want nothing to do with modern so-called “Christians”. Leave the Jews alone, pry the boulder out of your own eye before you worry about the pebble in your neighbor’s.

]]> By: Tico http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-249616 Tico Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:47:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-249616 <p>Perfect Christians...you must mean like the Priests who have been buggering altar boys for the past few centuries. The current evangelical form of Christianity is a crock and Jesus would want nothing to do with modern so-called "Christians". Leave the Jews alone, pry the boulder out of your own eye before you worry about the pebble in your neighbor's.</p> Perfect Christians…you must mean like the Priests who have been buggering altar boys for the past few centuries. The current evangelical form of Christianity is a crock and Jesus would want nothing to do with modern so-called “Christians”. Leave the Jews alone, pry the boulder out of your own eye before you worry about the pebble in your neighbor’s.

]]> By: kP http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-87096 kP Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:28:44 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-87096 <p>Ann: Nevermind that Jews who WROTE the Old Testament (aka the Torah) and that Christianity arises from the New Testament. You clearly have been perfected. Into what... I cannot say. I think bleach has something to do with it.</p> Ann: Nevermind that Jews who WROTE the Old Testament (aka the Torah) and that Christianity arises from the New Testament. You clearly have been perfected. Into what… I cannot say. I think bleach has something to do with it.

]]> By: kP http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-249615 kP Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:28:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-249615 <p>Ann: Nevermind that Jews who WROTE the Old Testament (aka the Torah) and that Christianity arises from the New Testament. You clearly have been perfected. Into what... I cannot say. I think bleach has something to do with it.</p> Ann: Nevermind that Jews who WROTE the Old Testament (aka the Torah) and that Christianity arises from the New Testament. You clearly have been perfected. Into what… I cannot say. I think bleach has something to do with it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-87095 Anonymous Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:21:06 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-87095 <p>Yes, Christians believe that Christianity is an update to Judaism. The problem is that they believe everyone should convert to their religion. You don't see door-to-door Jews or Pagans.</p> Yes, Christians believe that Christianity is an update to Judaism. The problem is that they believe everyone should convert to their religion. You don’t see door-to-door Jews or Pagans.

]]> By: Anonymous http://danielmiessler.com/blog/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one/comment-page-1#comment-249614 Anonymous Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:21:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blogarchive/im-with-ann-coulter-on-this-one#comment-249614 <p>Yes, Christians believe that Christianity is an update to Judaism. The problem is that they believe everyone should convert to their religion. You don't see door-to-door Jews or Pagans.</p> Yes, Christians believe that Christianity is an update to Judaism. The problem is that they believe everyone should convert to their religion. You don’t see door-to-door Jews or Pagans.

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