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		<title>By: Eamon Landon</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-i-learned-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-83258</link>
		<dc:creator>Eamon Landon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sure the guy was being belligerent. Sure he was doing it on purpose, but there is a pause when he asked the last question, like he was waiting for an answer. Then the cops come over and begin pushing him off the microphone. Why?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The senator shouldn&#039;t be at a university if he doesn&#039;t want to be asked questions that he doesn&#039;t like.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The guy should&#039;ve been ejected for being a nuisance, not arrested. He was arrested for resisting arrest. Why? What was he doing that would be grounds for being arrested?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I saw this video for the first time my stomach turned.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have a great respect for police, but I have a greater respect for the Bill of Rights.It sickens me that someone can be arrested for being a jerk in a public forum. What is going on in this country?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure the guy was being belligerent. Sure he was doing it on purpose, but there is a pause when he asked the last question, like he was waiting for an answer. Then the cops come over and begin pushing him off the microphone. Why?</p>

<p>The senator shouldn&#8217;t be at a university if he doesn&#8217;t want to be asked questions that he doesn&#8217;t like.</p>

<p>The guy should&#8217;ve been ejected for being a nuisance, not arrested. He was arrested for resisting arrest. Why? What was he doing that would be grounds for being arrested?</p>

<p>When I saw this video for the first time my stomach turned.</p>

<p>I have a great respect for police, but I have a greater respect for the Bill of Rights.It sickens me that someone can be arrested for being a jerk in a public forum. What is going on in this country?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eamon Landon</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-i-learned-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-249430</link>
		<dc:creator>Eamon Landon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sure the guy was being belligerent. Sure he was doing it on purpose, but there is a pause when he asked the last question, like he was waiting for an answer. Then the cops come over and begin pushing him off the microphone. Why?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The senator shouldn&#039;t be at a university if he doesn&#039;t want to be asked questions that he doesn&#039;t like.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The guy should&#039;ve been ejected for being a nuisance, not arrested. He was arrested for resisting arrest. Why? What was he doing that would be grounds for being arrested?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I saw this video for the first time my stomach turned.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have a great respect for police, but I have a greater respect for the Bill of Rights.It sickens me that someone can be arrested for being a jerk in a public forum. What is going on in this country?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure the guy was being belligerent. Sure he was doing it on purpose, but there is a pause when he asked the last question, like he was waiting for an answer. Then the cops come over and begin pushing him off the microphone. Why?</p>

<p>The senator shouldn&#8217;t be at a university if he doesn&#8217;t want to be asked questions that he doesn&#8217;t like.</p>

<p>The guy should&#8217;ve been ejected for being a nuisance, not arrested. He was arrested for resisting arrest. Why? What was he doing that would be grounds for being arrested?</p>

<p>When I saw this video for the first time my stomach turned.</p>

<p>I have a great respect for police, but I have a greater respect for the Bill of Rights.It sickens me that someone can be arrested for being a jerk in a public forum. What is going on in this country?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: alexkreuz</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-i-learned-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-83202</link>
		<dc:creator>alexkreuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you were shot that night, your parents would tell a different story.  You know there is a good video showing in which case tazering a person is a necessary force.  Notice how they only apply it under extreme pressure because the officers have no other method to bring this man in.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9_Xcs0Tho&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When you look at all the videos of the tazering at UF, you can clearly see that one of the kid&#039;s hands was already handcuffed.  His other hand was grasped roughly by two officers.  In this case, there was absolutely no reason to pull out the tazer.  The kid wasn&#039;t going anywhere, and was no danger at all to the officers involved.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, aside from the technicality of it, how does dissenting from popular opinion at a political event compare to &quot;kids playing with guns in public&quot;?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I tend to agree with what you say, but I think your logic is off on this one.  On the bright side though, your flawed logic got me to come out and comment for a change :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were shot that night, your parents would tell a different story.  You know there is a good video showing in which case tazering a person is a necessary force.  Notice how they only apply it under extreme pressure because the officers have no other method to bring this man in.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9_Xcs0Tho" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9_Xcs0Tho</a></p>

<p>When you look at all the videos of the tazering at UF, you can clearly see that one of the kid&#8217;s hands was already handcuffed.  His other hand was grasped roughly by two officers.  In this case, there was absolutely no reason to pull out the tazer.  The kid wasn&#8217;t going anywhere, and was no danger at all to the officers involved.</p>

<p>However, aside from the technicality of it, how does dissenting from popular opinion at a political event compare to &#8220;kids playing with guns in public&#8221;?</p>

<p>I tend to agree with what you say, but I think your logic is off on this one.  On the bright side though, your flawed logic got me to come out and comment for a change :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: alexkreuz</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-i-learned-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-249429</link>
		<dc:creator>alexkreuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you were shot that night, your parents would tell a different story.  You know there is a good video showing in which case tazering a person is a necessary force.  Notice how they only apply it under extreme pressure because the officers have no other method to bring this man in.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9_Xcs0Tho&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When you look at all the videos of the tazering at UF, you can clearly see that one of the kid&#039;s hands was already handcuffed.  His other hand was grasped roughly by two officers.  In this case, there was absolutely no reason to pull out the tazer.  The kid wasn&#039;t going anywhere, and was no danger at all to the officers involved.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, aside from the technicality of it, how does dissenting from popular opinion at a political event compare to &quot;kids playing with guns in public&quot;?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I tend to agree with what you say, but I think your logic is off on this one.  On the bright side though, your flawed logic got me to come out and comment for a change :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were shot that night, your parents would tell a different story.  You know there is a good video showing in which case tazering a person is a necessary force.  Notice how they only apply it under extreme pressure because the officers have no other method to bring this man in.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9_Xcs0Tho" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9_Xcs0Tho</a></p>

<p>When you look at all the videos of the tazering at UF, you can clearly see that one of the kid&#8217;s hands was already handcuffed.  His other hand was grasped roughly by two officers.  In this case, there was absolutely no reason to pull out the tazer.  The kid wasn&#8217;t going anywhere, and was no danger at all to the officers involved.</p>

<p>However, aside from the technicality of it, how does dissenting from popular opinion at a political event compare to &#8220;kids playing with guns in public&#8221;?</p>

<p>I tend to agree with what you say, but I think your logic is off on this one.  On the bright side though, your flawed logic got me to come out and comment for a change :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alan Crowe</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-i-learned-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-83191</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Crowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The police were way out of line.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Try to join up your thinking with other contempory issues. We worry about obesity. We want children to outside, running around, playing games.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is unacceptable to have police discouraging children from running around outside. &quot;It turned into a minor fiasco.&quot; It sure did. The officers should not have drawn there guns. They should have see the &quot;Giant, space-weapon-looking laser tag toys&quot;. Then they should have gone and had a stern word with the adults.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I remember grumpy adults from when I was a child. They don&#039;t like children running round, playing, shouting and being noisy. It is a pretty safe bet that the adults involved were playing a game of plausible denial. They saw &quot;Giant, space-weapon-looking laser tag toys&quot;, told the police &quot;guns&quot; and reckoned that they could fudge their way out of trouble if they were called on this lie. The police should have made it very clear to them that they only get away with this once, the incident will not be forgotten, and next time they want to complain about noisy children they play it straight, and complain about noisy children with no lying about &quot;guns&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The police were way out of line.</p>

<p>Try to join up your thinking with other contempory issues. We worry about obesity. We want children to outside, running around, playing games.</p>

<p>It is unacceptable to have police discouraging children from running around outside. &#8220;It turned into a minor fiasco.&#8221; It sure did. The officers should not have drawn there guns. They should have see the &#8220;Giant, space-weapon-looking laser tag toys&#8221;. Then they should have gone and had a stern word with the adults.</p>

<p>I remember grumpy adults from when I was a child. They don&#8217;t like children running round, playing, shouting and being noisy. It is a pretty safe bet that the adults involved were playing a game of plausible denial. They saw &#8220;Giant, space-weapon-looking laser tag toys&#8221;, told the police &#8220;guns&#8221; and reckoned that they could fudge their way out of trouble if they were called on this lie. The police should have made it very clear to them that they only get away with this once, the incident will not be forgotten, and next time they want to complain about noisy children they play it straight, and complain about noisy children with no lying about &#8220;guns&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alan Crowe</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-i-learned-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-249428</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Crowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The police were way out of line.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Try to join up your thinking with other contempory issues. We worry about obesity. We want children to outside, running around, playing games.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is unacceptable to have police discouraging children from running around outside. &quot;It turned into a minor fiasco.&quot; It sure did. The officers should not have drawn there guns. They should have see the &quot;Giant, space-weapon-looking laser tag toys&quot;. Then they should have gone and had a stern word with the adults.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I remember grumpy adults from when I was a child. They don&#039;t like children running round, playing, shouting and being noisy. It is a pretty safe bet that the adults involved were playing a game of plausible denial. They saw &quot;Giant, space-weapon-looking laser tag toys&quot;, told the police &quot;guns&quot; and reckoned that they could fudge their way out of trouble if they were called on this lie. The police should have made it very clear to them that they only get away with this once, the incident will not be forgotten, and next time they want to complain about noisy children they play it straight, and complain about noisy children with no lying about &quot;guns&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The police were way out of line.</p>

<p>Try to join up your thinking with other contempory issues. We worry about obesity. We want children to outside, running around, playing games.</p>

<p>It is unacceptable to have police discouraging children from running around outside. &#8220;It turned into a minor fiasco.&#8221; It sure did. The officers should not have drawn there guns. They should have see the &#8220;Giant, space-weapon-looking laser tag toys&#8221;. Then they should have gone and had a stern word with the adults.</p>

<p>I remember grumpy adults from when I was a child. They don&#8217;t like children running round, playing, shouting and being noisy. It is a pretty safe bet that the adults involved were playing a game of plausible denial. They saw &#8220;Giant, space-weapon-looking laser tag toys&#8221;, told the police &#8220;guns&#8221; and reckoned that they could fudge their way out of trouble if they were called on this lie. The police should have made it very clear to them that they only get away with this once, the incident will not be forgotten, and next time they want to complain about noisy children they play it straight, and complain about noisy children with no lying about &#8220;guns&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-i-learned-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-83184</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nope. You&#039;re wrong. This is exactly how tragedies happen. When weapons are drawn - real ones - one single mistake can cause death.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. You&#8217;re wrong. This is exactly how tragedies happen. When weapons are drawn &#8211; real ones &#8211; one single mistake can cause death.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-i-learned-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-249427</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nope. You&#039;re wrong. This is exactly how tragedies happen. When weapons are drawn - real ones - one single mistake can cause death.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. You&#8217;re wrong. This is exactly how tragedies happen. When weapons are drawn &#8211; real ones &#8211; one single mistake can cause death.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cak</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-i-learned-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-83157</link>
		<dc:creator>cak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No doubt the chap in Florida was a trouble maker. Maybe the security were justified to remove him from the room in the manner they did.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But you seem to skirt over the issue of him being tazered. I see a bigger problem her, the prevalence of issues that previously were solved by other methods, now being solved by tazering - this is a problem. Tazering should only ever be used as a last resort, not at the will of security guards.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt the chap in Florida was a trouble maker. Maybe the security were justified to remove him from the room in the manner they did.</p>

<p>But you seem to skirt over the issue of him being tazered. I see a bigger problem her, the prevalence of issues that previously were solved by other methods, now being solved by tazering &#8211; this is a problem. Tazering should only ever be used as a last resort, not at the will of security guards.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cak</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-i-learned-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-249426</link>
		<dc:creator>cak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No doubt the chap in Florida was a trouble maker. Maybe the security were justified to remove him from the room in the manner they did.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But you seem to skirt over the issue of him being tazered. I see a bigger problem her, the prevalence of issues that previously were solved by other methods, now being solved by tazering - this is a problem. Tazering should only ever be used as a last resort, not at the will of security guards.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt the chap in Florida was a trouble maker. Maybe the security were justified to remove him from the room in the manner they did.</p>

<p>But you seem to skirt over the issue of him being tazered. I see a bigger problem her, the prevalence of issues that previously were solved by other methods, now being solved by tazering &#8211; this is a problem. Tazering should only ever be used as a last resort, not at the will of security guards.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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