Comments on: Facism: “I Don’t Think That Word Means What You Think It Means.” http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means grep understanding Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:44:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: andrewwang http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-242045 andrewwang Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:56:29 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-242045 <p>There is bad news about George Herbert Walker Bush.<br> <br>What if basically all racial-minority people would subscribe to the interpretations that George Herbert Walker Bush committed monstrous, racist, hate crimes while he was the President of the United States?<br> <br>It will eventually come out: it is only a matter of time.<br> <br>Respectfully Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang, J.D. Candidate<br>B.S., With the Highest Level of Academic Honors at Graduation, 1996<br>Messiah College, Grantham, PA<br>Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993<br><br>(I can type 90 words per minute, and there are thousands of copies on the Internet indicating the content of this post. And there are at least hundreds of copies in very many countries around the world.)<br>_________________<br>“If only it were possible to ban invention that bottled up memories so they never got stale and faded.” Off the top of my head—it came from my Lower Merion High School yearbook.</p> There is bad news about George Herbert Walker Bush.

What if basically all racial-minority people would subscribe to the interpretations that George Herbert Walker Bush committed monstrous, racist, hate crimes while he was the President of the United States?

It will eventually come out: it is only a matter of time.

Respectfully Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang, J.D. Candidate
B.S., With the Highest Level of Academic Honors at Graduation, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993

(I can type 90 words per minute, and there are thousands of copies on the Internet indicating the content of this post. And there are at least hundreds of copies in very many countries around the world.)
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“If only it were possible to ban invention that bottled up memories so they never got stale and faded.” Off the top of my head—it came from my Lower Merion High School yearbook.

]]> By: andrewwang http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-241005 andrewwang Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:56:29 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-241005 <p>There is bad news about George Herbert Walker Bush.<br> <br>What if basically all racial-minority people would subscribe to the interpretations that George Herbert Walker Bush committed monstrous, racist, hate crimes while he was the President of the United States?<br> <br>It will eventually come out: it is only a matter of time.<br> <br>Respectfully Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang, J.D. Candidate<br>B.S., With the Highest Level of Academic Honors at Graduation, 1996<br>Messiah College, Grantham, PA<br>Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993<br><br>(I can type 90 words per minute, and there are thousands of copies on the Internet indicating the content of this post. And there are at least hundreds of copies in very many countries around the world.)<br>_________________<br>“If only it were possible to ban invention that bottled up memories so they never got stale and faded.” Off the top of my head—it came from my Lower Merion High School yearbook.</p> There is bad news about George Herbert Walker Bush.

What if basically all racial-minority people would subscribe to the interpretations that George Herbert Walker Bush committed monstrous, racist, hate crimes while he was the President of the United States?

It will eventually come out: it is only a matter of time.

Respectfully Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang, J.D. Candidate
B.S., With the Highest Level of Academic Honors at Graduation, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993

(I can type 90 words per minute, and there are thousands of copies on the Internet indicating the content of this post. And there are at least hundreds of copies in very many countries around the world.)
_________________
“If only it were possible to ban invention that bottled up memories so they never got stale and faded.” Off the top of my head—it came from my Lower Merion High School yearbook.

]]> By: Chris http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-181196 Chris Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:38:07 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-181196 <p>Dave Niewert over at <a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/}" rel="nofollow">Orcinus</a> has has been writing and covering this topic for a number of years.</p> <p>Check out "Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An Exegesis" (down the page, left hand side) for a 'tome' on fascism and the right-wing enablers that are taking us down that path.</p> Dave Niewert over at Orcinus has has been writing and covering this topic for a number of years.

Check out “Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An Exegesis” (down the page, left hand side) for a ‘tome’ on fascism and the right-wing enablers that are taking us down that path.

]]> By: Chris http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-252573 Chris Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:38:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-252573 <p>Dave Niewert over at <a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/}" rel="nofollow">Orcinus</a> has has been writing and covering this topic for a number of years.</p> <p>Check out "Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An Exegesis" (down the page, left hand side) for a 'tome' on fascism and the right-wing enablers that are taking us down that path.</p> Dave Niewert over at Orcinus has has been writing and covering this topic for a number of years.

Check out “Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An Exegesis” (down the page, left hand side) for a ‘tome’ on fascism and the right-wing enablers that are taking us down that path.

]]> By: Chris http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-252574 Chris Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:38:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-252574 <p>Dave Niewert over at <a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/}" rel="nofollow">Orcinus</a> has has been writing and covering this topic for a number of years.</p> <p>Check out "Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An Exegesis" (down the page, left hand side) for a 'tome' on fascism and the right-wing enablers that are taking us down that path.</p> Dave Niewert over at Orcinus has has been writing and covering this topic for a number of years.

Check out “Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An Exegesis” (down the page, left hand side) for a ‘tome’ on fascism and the right-wing enablers that are taking us down that path.

]]> By: Maxo http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-180303 Maxo Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:19:17 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-180303 <p>I think you need to research Hitler a little better and understand his political ideals. He HATED communism. He considered it the cockroach-child of Jews, designed to infest and eventually destroy our world so that the Jews could hold world power. It was through socialism and a strong German state he meant to squash out all Jews and their communistic ideals.</p> I think you need to research Hitler a little better and understand his political ideals. He HATED communism. He considered it the cockroach-child of Jews, designed to infest and eventually destroy our world so that the Jews could hold world power. It was through socialism and a strong German state he meant to squash out all Jews and their communistic ideals.

]]> By: Maxo http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-252572 Maxo Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:19:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-252572 <p>I think you need to research Hitler a little better and understand his political ideals. He HATED communism. He considered it the cockroach-child of Jews, designed to infest and eventually destroy our world so that the Jews could hold world power. It was through socialism and a strong German state he meant to squash out all Jews and their communistic ideals.</p> I think you need to research Hitler a little better and understand his political ideals. He HATED communism. He considered it the cockroach-child of Jews, designed to infest and eventually destroy our world so that the Jews could hold world power. It was through socialism and a strong German state he meant to squash out all Jews and their communistic ideals.

]]> By: MD http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-180231 MD Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:15:44 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-180231 <p>Communism is also a stateless society (ie, anarchism but done through socialism), whereas fascism tends to be centralized.</p> Communism is also a stateless society (ie, anarchism but done through socialism), whereas fascism tends to be centralized.

]]> By: MD http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-252570 MD Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:15:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-252570 <p>Communism is also a stateless society (ie, anarchism but done through socialism), whereas fascism tends to be centralized.</p> Communism is also a stateless society (ie, anarchism but done through socialism), whereas fascism tends to be centralized.

]]> By: MD http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-252571 MD Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:15:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-252571 <p>Communism is also a stateless society (ie, anarchism but done through socialism), whereas fascism tends to be centralized.</p> Communism is also a stateless society (ie, anarchism but done through socialism), whereas fascism tends to be centralized.

]]> By: Daniel Miessler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-180167 Daniel Miessler Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:13:13 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-180167 <p>Good stuff, thanks.</p> Good stuff, thanks.

]]> By: Daniel Miessler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-252568 Daniel Miessler Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:13:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-252568 <p>Good stuff, thanks.</p> Good stuff, thanks.

]]> By: Daniel Miessler http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-252569 Daniel Miessler Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:13:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-252569 <p>Good stuff, thanks.</p> Good stuff, thanks.

]]> By: Derek http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-180028 Derek Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:14:24 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-180028 <p>Quick comments:</p> <ul> <li>Along with nationalism usually comes intolerance for other "types" of people (ie. racism)</li> <li>Theoretical communism strives for equality among all citizens, therefore a democratic communist society (as proposed by Marx) is possible.</li> </ul> Quick comments:

  • Along with nationalism usually comes intolerance for other “types” of people (ie. racism)
  • Theoretical communism strives for equality among all citizens, therefore a democratic communist society (as proposed by Marx) is possible.
]]> By: Derek http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-252567 Derek Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:14:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-252567 <p>Quick comments:</p> <ul> <li>Along with nationalism usually comes intolerance for other "types" of people (ie. racism)</li> <li>Theoretical communism strives for equality among all citizens, therefore a democratic communist society (as proposed by Marx) is possible.</li> </ul> Quick comments:

  • Along with nationalism usually comes intolerance for other “types” of people (ie. racism)
  • Theoretical communism strives for equality among all citizens, therefore a democratic communist society (as proposed by Marx) is possible.
]]> By: Steven G. Harms http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-180023 Steven G. Harms Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:02:20 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-180023 <p>Well the most basic tool for discerning communism from fascism is to realize that fascism is far right. They both happen to be at such extremes that they're near the point where extremes wrap around onto one another. National socialism is also a bit of a confusing factor here for while they claimed socialism, they were certainly far right, as you note above.</p> <p>Communism is the nth degree of socialism and holds at its heart the abrogation of The Church, unsurprisingly it found its authors in Protestant countries. </p> <p>It's not coincidental that fascism took root in an extremely conservative, Catholic country. To go from <em>papa</em> to <em>il papa</em> ( pope ) to <em>il duce</em> ( Mussolini, generically it means leader, or general ). A country that lauds the preservation of the sacrosanctity of "the family" may find itself accommodating the seeds of fascist thought.</p> <p>I would not stretch the affiliation of Catholicism and fascism, though. Such a conclusion might be tempting based on Catholic-leaning Austria and Southern Germany being the origins of the National Socialist movement, but methinks that's going a bridge too far.</p> <p>There's a start :)</p> Well the most basic tool for discerning communism from fascism is to realize that fascism is far right. They both happen to be at such extremes that they’re near the point where extremes wrap around onto one another. National socialism is also a bit of a confusing factor here for while they claimed socialism, they were certainly far right, as you note above.

Communism is the nth degree of socialism and holds at its heart the abrogation of The Church, unsurprisingly it found its authors in Protestant countries.

It’s not coincidental that fascism took root in an extremely conservative, Catholic country. To go from papa to il papa ( pope ) to il duce ( Mussolini, generically it means leader, or general ). A country that lauds the preservation of the sacrosanctity of “the family” may find itself accommodating the seeds of fascist thought.

I would not stretch the affiliation of Catholicism and fascism, though. Such a conclusion might be tempting based on Catholic-leaning Austria and Southern Germany being the origins of the National Socialist movement, but methinks that’s going a bridge too far.

There’s a start :)

]]> By: Steven G. Harms http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-252565 Steven G. Harms Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:02:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-252565 <p>Well the most basic tool for discerning communism from fascism is to realize that fascism is far right. They both happen to be at such extremes that they're near the point where extremes wrap around onto one another. National socialism is also a bit of a confusing factor here for while they claimed socialism, they were certainly far right, as you note above.</p> <p>Communism is the nth degree of socialism and holds at its heart the abrogation of The Church, unsurprisingly it found its authors in Protestant countries. </p> <p>It's not coincidental that fascism took root in an extremely conservative, Catholic country. To go from <em>papa</em> to <em>il papa</em> ( pope ) to <em>il duce</em> ( Mussolini, generically it means leader, or general ). A country that lauds the preservation of the sacrosanctity of "the family" may find itself accommodating the seeds of fascist thought.</p> <p>I would not stretch the affiliation of Catholicism and fascism, though. Such a conclusion might be tempting based on Catholic-leaning Austria and Southern Germany being the origins of the National Socialist movement, but methinks that's going a bridge too far.</p> <p>There's a start :)</p> Well the most basic tool for discerning communism from fascism is to realize that fascism is far right. They both happen to be at such extremes that they’re near the point where extremes wrap around onto one another. National socialism is also a bit of a confusing factor here for while they claimed socialism, they were certainly far right, as you note above.

Communism is the nth degree of socialism and holds at its heart the abrogation of The Church, unsurprisingly it found its authors in Protestant countries.

It’s not coincidental that fascism took root in an extremely conservative, Catholic country. To go from papa to il papa ( pope ) to il duce ( Mussolini, generically it means leader, or general ). A country that lauds the preservation of the sacrosanctity of “the family” may find itself accommodating the seeds of fascist thought.

I would not stretch the affiliation of Catholicism and fascism, though. Such a conclusion might be tempting based on Catholic-leaning Austria and Southern Germany being the origins of the National Socialist movement, but methinks that’s going a bridge too far.

There’s a start :)

]]> By: Steven G. Harms http://danielmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means/comment-page-1#comment-252566 Steven G. Harms Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:02:00 +0000 http://dmiessler.com/blog/facism-i-dont-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means#comment-252566 <p>Well the most basic tool for discerning communism from fascism is to realize that fascism is far right. They both happen to be at such extremes that they're near the point where extremes wrap around onto one another. National socialism is also a bit of a confusing factor here for while they claimed socialism, they were certainly far right, as you note above.</p> <p>Communism is the nth degree of socialism and holds at its heart the abrogation of The Church, unsurprisingly it found its authors in Protestant countries. </p> <p>It's not coincidental that fascism took root in an extremely conservative, Catholic country. To go from <em>papa</em> to <em>il papa</em> ( pope ) to <em>il duce</em> ( Mussolini, generically it means leader, or general ). A country that lauds the preservation of the sacrosanctity of "the family" may find itself accommodating the seeds of fascist thought.</p> <p>I would not stretch the affiliation of Catholicism and fascism, though. Such a conclusion might be tempting based on Catholic-leaning Austria and Southern Germany being the origins of the National Socialist movement, but methinks that's going a bridge too far.</p> <p>There's a start :)</p> Well the most basic tool for discerning communism from fascism is to realize that fascism is far right. They both happen to be at such extremes that they’re near the point where extremes wrap around onto one another. National socialism is also a bit of a confusing factor here for while they claimed socialism, they were certainly far right, as you note above.

Communism is the nth degree of socialism and holds at its heart the abrogation of The Church, unsurprisingly it found its authors in Protestant countries.

It’s not coincidental that fascism took root in an extremely conservative, Catholic country. To go from papa to il papa ( pope ) to il duce ( Mussolini, generically it means leader, or general ). A country that lauds the preservation of the sacrosanctity of “the family” may find itself accommodating the seeds of fascist thought.

I would not stretch the affiliation of Catholicism and fascism, though. Such a conclusion might be tempting based on Catholic-leaning Austria and Southern Germany being the origins of the National Socialist movement, but methinks that’s going a bridge too far.

There’s a start :)

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