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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/america-and-the-satanist-next-door/comment-page-1#comment-2362</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 01:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Daniel - You&#039;re right. Lots of people are too focused on the here and now, and the looking-out-for-number-one. Even some (many? most?) of the people who call themselves Christians, but many (most?) non-Christians fit the bill, too. You clearly understand that following God&#039;s rules is difficult.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Writing the whole thing off (and as Satanism, no less!) because some self-described Christians don&#039;t live up to the ideal is silly. You read Steve Pavlina -- would you say that Toastmasters is a useless organization (or worse) because some of the people in that group give crappy speeches?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As I understand it (and I&#039;m no expert) Jesus was the only man ever to have lived the perfect life. Everyone else - even those of his disciples who lived with him and saw his miracles first-hand - falls short. As I understand it, the &lt;em&gt;trying&lt;/em&gt; is the purpose.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dennis - talking in the whole numbers that I Kings 7:23 does, &quot;three&quot; is the correct approximation of pi. It&#039;s as precise as the numbers going into the equation allow.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The dimensions of the circle given are a diameter of &quot;ten&quot; and a circumference of &quot;thirty,&quot; - not &quot;10.0&quot; and &quot;10.0&quot;. Each of those values contains one significant digit. Because the result of a mathematical transformation cannot be more precise than the least precise value it takes as an argument, the result must contain one (and only one) significant digit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And pi, to one sigificant digit, really is 3.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Bible does not say that &quot;pi = 3.0.&quot; It says that a first-order approximation of pi is three (&quot;3&quot;, not &quot;3.0&quot;). That&#039;s true.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, the &quot;Tennesee Legislature&quot; thing was an April Fools&#039; joke in 1998. It was Indiana that tried it, but it&#039;s a stretch to say that 1897 was &quot;not too long ago.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Significant Digits - http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SignificantDigits.html
Indiana Legislature - http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_341.html
And at Snopes - http://www.snopes.com/religion/pi.htm&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel &#8211; You&#8217;re right. Lots of people are too focused on the here and now, and the looking-out-for-number-one. Even some (many? most?) of the people who call themselves Christians, but many (most?) non-Christians fit the bill, too. You clearly understand that following God&#8217;s rules is difficult.</p>

<p>Writing the whole thing off (and as Satanism, no less!) because some self-described Christians don&#8217;t live up to the ideal is silly. You read Steve Pavlina &#8212; would you say that Toastmasters is a useless organization (or worse) because some of the people in that group give crappy speeches?</p>

<p>As I understand it (and I&#8217;m no expert) Jesus was the only man ever to have lived the perfect life. Everyone else &#8211; even those of his disciples who lived with him and saw his miracles first-hand &#8211; falls short. As I understand it, the <em>trying</em> is the purpose.</p>

<p>Dennis &#8211; talking in the whole numbers that I Kings 7:23 does, &#8220;three&#8221; is the correct approximation of pi. It&#8217;s as precise as the numbers going into the equation allow.</p>

<p>The dimensions of the circle given are a diameter of &#8220;ten&#8221; and a circumference of &#8220;thirty,&#8221; &#8211; not &#8220;10.0&#8243; and &#8220;10.0&#8243;. Each of those values contains one significant digit. Because the result of a mathematical transformation cannot be more precise than the least precise value it takes as an argument, the result must contain one (and only one) significant digit.</p>

<p>And pi, to one sigificant digit, really is 3.</p>

<p>The Bible does not say that &#8220;pi = 3.0.&#8221; It says that a first-order approximation of pi is three (&#8220;3&#8243;, not &#8220;3.0&#8243;). That&#8217;s true.</p>

<p>Also, the &#8220;Tennesee Legislature&#8221; thing was an April Fools&#8217; joke in 1998. It was Indiana that tried it, but it&#8217;s a stretch to say that 1897 was &#8220;not too long ago.&#8221;</p>

<p>Significant Digits &#8211; <a href="http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SignificantDigits.html" rel="nofollow">http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SignificantDigits.html</a>
Indiana Legislature &#8211; <a href="http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_341.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_341.html</a>
And at Snopes &#8211; <a href="http://www.snopes.com/religion/pi.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/religion/pi.htm</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/america-and-the-satanist-next-door/comment-page-1#comment-245766</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Daniel - You&#039;re right. Lots of people are too focused on the here and now, and the looking-out-for-number-one. Even some (many? most?) of the people who call themselves Christians, but many (most?) non-Christians fit the bill, too. You clearly understand that following God&#039;s rules is difficult.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Writing the whole thing off (and as Satanism, no less!) because some self-described Christians don&#039;t live up to the ideal is silly. You read Steve Pavlina -- would you say that Toastmasters is a useless organization (or worse) because some of the people in that group give crappy speeches?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As I understand it (and I&#039;m no expert) Jesus was the only man ever to have lived the perfect life. Everyone else - even those of his disciples who lived with him and saw his miracles first-hand - falls short. As I understand it, the &lt;em&gt;trying&lt;/em&gt; is the purpose.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dennis - talking in the whole numbers that I Kings 7:23 does, &quot;three&quot; is the correct approximation of pi. It&#039;s as precise as the numbers going into the equation allow.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The dimensions of the circle given are a diameter of &quot;ten&quot; and a circumference of &quot;thirty,&quot; - not &quot;10.0&quot; and &quot;10.0&quot;. Each of those values contains one significant digit. Because the result of a mathematical transformation cannot be more precise than the least precise value it takes as an argument, the result must contain one (and only one) significant digit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And pi, to one sigificant digit, really is 3.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Bible does not say that &quot;pi = 3.0.&quot; It says that a first-order approximation of pi is three (&quot;3&quot;, not &quot;3.0&quot;). That&#039;s true.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, the &quot;Tennesee Legislature&quot; thing was an April Fools&#039; joke in 1998. It was Indiana that tried it, but it&#039;s a stretch to say that 1897 was &quot;not too long ago.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Significant Digits - http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SignificantDigits.html
Indiana Legislature - http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_341.html
And at Snopes - http://www.snopes.com/religion/pi.htm&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel &#8211; You&#8217;re right. Lots of people are too focused on the here and now, and the looking-out-for-number-one. Even some (many? most?) of the people who call themselves Christians, but many (most?) non-Christians fit the bill, too. You clearly understand that following God&#8217;s rules is difficult.</p>

<p>Writing the whole thing off (and as Satanism, no less!) because some self-described Christians don&#8217;t live up to the ideal is silly. You read Steve Pavlina &#8212; would you say that Toastmasters is a useless organization (or worse) because some of the people in that group give crappy speeches?</p>

<p>As I understand it (and I&#8217;m no expert) Jesus was the only man ever to have lived the perfect life. Everyone else &#8211; even those of his disciples who lived with him and saw his miracles first-hand &#8211; falls short. As I understand it, the <em>trying</em> is the purpose.</p>

<p>Dennis &#8211; talking in the whole numbers that I Kings 7:23 does, &#8220;three&#8221; is the correct approximation of pi. It&#8217;s as precise as the numbers going into the equation allow.</p>

<p>The dimensions of the circle given are a diameter of &#8220;ten&#8221; and a circumference of &#8220;thirty,&#8221; &#8211; not &#8220;10.0&#8243; and &#8220;10.0&#8243;. Each of those values contains one significant digit. Because the result of a mathematical transformation cannot be more precise than the least precise value it takes as an argument, the result must contain one (and only one) significant digit.</p>

<p>And pi, to one sigificant digit, really is 3.</p>

<p>The Bible does not say that &#8220;pi = 3.0.&#8221; It says that a first-order approximation of pi is three (&#8220;3&#8243;, not &#8220;3.0&#8243;). That&#8217;s true.</p>

<p>Also, the &#8220;Tennesee Legislature&#8221; thing was an April Fools&#8217; joke in 1998. It was Indiana that tried it, but it&#8217;s a stretch to say that 1897 was &#8220;not too long ago.&#8221;</p>

<p>Significant Digits &#8211; <a href="http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SignificantDigits.html" rel="nofollow">http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SignificantDigits.html</a>
Indiana Legislature &#8211; <a href="http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_341.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_341.html</a>
And at Snopes &#8211; <a href="http://www.snopes.com/religion/pi.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/religion/pi.htm</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/america-and-the-satanist-next-door/comment-page-1#comment-2361</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;the legislation did not pass but it&#039;s crazy that they were even trying.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the legislation did not pass but it&#8217;s crazy that they were even trying.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;the legislation did not pass but it&#039;s crazy that they were even trying.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the legislation did not pass but it&#8217;s crazy that they were even trying.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/america-and-the-satanist-next-door/comment-page-1#comment-2360</link>
		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;comment on a comment.  Do you realize how changing the accepted value of pi would affect calculations?  Are you serious about the tennessee thing?  wow.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comment on a comment.  Do you realize how changing the accepted value of pi would affect calculations?  Are you serious about the tennessee thing?  wow.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;comment on a comment.  Do you realize how changing the accepted value of pi would affect calculations?  Are you serious about the tennessee thing?  wow.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comment on a comment.  Do you realize how changing the accepted value of pi would affect calculations?  Are you serious about the tennessee thing?  wow.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Marisol</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/america-and-the-satanist-next-door/comment-page-1#comment-2359</link>
		<dc:creator>Marisol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, a very interesting read...thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a very interesting read&#8230;thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Marisol</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/america-and-the-satanist-next-door/comment-page-1#comment-245763</link>
		<dc:creator>Marisol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, a very interesting read...thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a very interesting read&#8230;thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dylan</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/america-and-the-satanist-next-door/comment-page-1#comment-2358</link>
		<dc:creator>dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;satanist.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>satanist.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dylan</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/america-and-the-satanist-next-door/comment-page-1#comment-245762</link>
		<dc:creator>dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;satanist.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>satanist.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just wanted to share this little christian note of old news. One of the differences is that in non-theistic trigonometry pi = 3.14159..., while in theistic trigonometry pi = 3.0 (see 1 Kings 7:23). This is taken so seriously by biblical literalists the Tennesse legislature not long ago seriously entertained legislation to force all mathematics teachers in the state&#039;s public schools to teach the theistic value of  pi so the mathematics curriculum would not contradict Scripute. On a side note if the bible says pi = 3.0 then that can be used to prove that the bible is flawed and maybe in the end prove that the bible is completely fiction.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to share this little christian note of old news. One of the differences is that in non-theistic trigonometry pi = 3.14159&#8230;, while in theistic trigonometry pi = 3.0 (see 1 Kings 7:23). This is taken so seriously by biblical literalists the Tennesse legislature not long ago seriously entertained legislation to force all mathematics teachers in the state&#8217;s public schools to teach the theistic value of  pi so the mathematics curriculum would not contradict Scripute. On a side note if the bible says pi = 3.0 then that can be used to prove that the bible is flawed and maybe in the end prove that the bible is completely fiction.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just wanted to share this little christian note of old news. One of the differences is that in non-theistic trigonometry pi = 3.14159..., while in theistic trigonometry pi = 3.0 (see 1 Kings 7:23). This is taken so seriously by biblical literalists the Tennesse legislature not long ago seriously entertained legislation to force all mathematics teachers in the state&#039;s public schools to teach the theistic value of  pi so the mathematics curriculum would not contradict Scripute. On a side note if the bible says pi = 3.0 then that can be used to prove that the bible is flawed and maybe in the end prove that the bible is completely fiction.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to share this little christian note of old news. One of the differences is that in non-theistic trigonometry pi = 3.14159&#8230;, while in theistic trigonometry pi = 3.0 (see 1 Kings 7:23). This is taken so seriously by biblical literalists the Tennesse legislature not long ago seriously entertained legislation to force all mathematics teachers in the state&#8217;s public schools to teach the theistic value of  pi so the mathematics curriculum would not contradict Scripute. On a side note if the bible says pi = 3.0 then that can be used to prove that the bible is flawed and maybe in the end prove that the bible is completely fiction.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
		<link>http://danielmiessler.com/blog/america-and-the-satanist-next-door/comment-page-1#comment-2356</link>
		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 05:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;just thought I&#039;d say that this was a very interesting read.  You make many interesting points here.  talk to ya later.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-brad&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just thought I&#8217;d say that this was a very interesting read.  You make many interesting points here.  talk to ya later.</p>

<p>-brad</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 05:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;just thought I&#039;d say that this was a very interesting read.  You make many interesting points here.  talk to ya later.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-brad&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just thought I&#8217;d say that this was a very interesting read.  You make many interesting points here.  talk to ya later.</p>

<p>-brad</p>]]></content:encoded>
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